"Hope and Fear" nits

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"Hope and Fear" nits

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It was certainly one of the better Voyager eps (damning with faint praise anyone?), but there were a couple of little bugs here and there. When Arturis pulled on the lever, the bridge reverted, but after Janeway and Seven escaped, they found an engine room that was still Starfleet.

Then, during the chase, Voyager was "a few minutes" behind Arturis' ship, but had maxed out their slipstream velocity. Arturis increased his speed and should have pulled ahead of Voyager, but the next scene shows Voyager right behind him knocking down his shields with PTs and beaming off Seven and Janeway.

These technical nits don't take away the fact that the story was one of the few Voyager stories worthy of being called top quality Trek, but it is characteristic of the lazy Voyager writing we've discussed before.
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I didn't notice that, CPH. But I agree with you that it's a great episode. And yeah, the storyline was well done, but everyone has a blooper here and there.
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mwhittington wrote:...everyone has a blooper here and there.
With Voyager, it seemed like "here and there" was practically the whole show.
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Slipstream drive one of the greatest technologies that Voyeger brought back, let us hope that SF will start instaling it on their ships.
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Post by Tsukiyumi »

That's another thing a show set maybe fifty years after Nemesis could address. The story possibilities increase as the in-universe technology increases, as Graham pointed out in his Enterprise article. Going backward leads to inconsistancies at best, and outright contradiction at worst (ENT: Regeneration).
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Post by Sionnach Glic »

I thought the slipstream drive didn't work? :?

Personaly, I think they should get back to studying the effects of Warp 10, and seeing can they be countered. Heck, just giving each member of the crew a copy of the healing vaccine (or whatever it was) could rectify the whole problem. They go to Warp 10, drop out again, and everyone takes the cure. Problem solved, and no one turns into a salamander.
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Rochey wrote:I thought the slipstream drive didn't work? :?
The drive itself worked fine - it was the navigation software that was faulty, and required the Delta Flyer to run ahead and transmit course corrections back to Voyager. Not that that method worked much better, but a few years or decades of refining to the technology should give the Feds trans-galactic flight.
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Rochey wrote:I thought the slipstream drive didn't work? :?

Personaly, I think they should get back to studying the effects of Warp 10, and seeing can they be countered. Heck, just giving each member of the crew a copy of the healing vaccine (or whatever it was) could rectify the whole problem. They go to Warp 10, drop out again, and everyone takes the cure. Problem solved, and no one turns into a salamander.
I thought we'd come to a consensus that that episode doesn't exist, like the ENT finale...
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Post by Sionnach Glic »

If that's the case, then can we throw out Threshold too? Please?
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Rochey wrote:If that's the case, then can we throw out Threshold too? Please?
That's what he meant I think.

But ya, Slipstream should be the Faster then warp engine of choice. It looks cooler and has a cooler name
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ChakatBlackstar wrote:That's what he meant I think.

But ya, Slipstream should be the Faster then warp engine of choice. It looks cooler and has a cooler name
Yeah, that's what I meant, and a slipstream-equipped UFP would make for some good 'Trek. Taking the fight to the Borg would be something I'd like to see, at least. Or, a new species from one of the Magellenic Clouds could become a primary threat. The possibilities are near endless, and wouldn't have to go against established 'Trek fact.
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Post by Blackstar the Chakat »

Tsukiyumi wrote:Or, a new species from one of the Magellenic Clouds could become a primary threat.
I like that idea. Maybe they start attacking the federation and other Alpha quadrent powers, and the Federation is forced to speed up development of Slipstream drive and other experimental technologys so that they can strike back. That could be a very interesting series.
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I like it. Write that in to Paramount, Tsu.
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Perhaps now that 'Trek is under new management, I may just give that a shot. I thought about sending in scripts for Enterprise, but they'd screwed it up royally by the time I was living under an actual roof again...
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