What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Voyager
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

Ah, I see.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Deepcrush »

Basic Training can't be shorten, its as short as it can get by the allotment of the Joint Chiefs. What they have done is remove most of the training courses that come after basic. The idea being that troops can be in place within the week the finish basic.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

Ah, I understand now. I thought there were only extra courses after basic for specialist troops (snipers, etc).
Thanks.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Deepcrush »

The US uses Basic to "introduce" troops to the equipment and tactics they will need in the field. We have later trainings that teach them how to use it.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

So every soldier would go through basic, and then go on and do extra courses after?
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Deepcrush »

Yup, think of it as a grade system.

Grade 1 - Basic
Grade 2 - Advanced Basic
Grade 3 - Specialist training.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

Ah, I get it now. Thanks.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Chris Propst
Senior chief petty officer
Senior chief petty officer
Posts: 69
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:01 pm

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Chris Propst »

Mark wrote:Good point. On a related note, I've often wondered about the relative physical strength and stamina of Bajorans. I've heard it mentioned before that they were slightly physically inferior to humans, but I just didn't see that in the show. Thoughts and observations??
I was always under the impression that Bajorans were, on average, physically comparable in strength to humans. That goes for Klingons too, IMO. I always thought they were naturally the same physical strength, but presumably as a warrior culture they probably devoted more time to developing fitness. Recall, Major Kira was able to take out Klingons in "Way of the Warrior." Hell, even Picard could hold his own in "Sins of the Father."
Rochey wrote:Ah, right.

Oh, and what's "jump school"? I'm getting this bizzare mental image of US troops advancing on Iraqi positions on pogo sticks. :?
I don't think 'advancing on Iraqi positions' is a very realistic image of how a conflict like the Iraq occupation is attempted. (even without the pogo sticks.)
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

I never said it was a realistic image, just the first one that came to mind.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Mikey
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral
Posts: 35635
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:04 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award
Location: down the shore, New Jersey, USA
Contact:

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Mikey »

Chris Propst wrote:That goes for Klingons too, IMO. I always thought they were naturally the same physical strength, but presumably as a warrior culture they probably devoted more time to developing fitness.
Judging by the canon physiological features mentioned about Klingons, all geared to increasing stamina, damage resistance, etc., I'd say it's safe to assume that they also enjoyed natural greater-than-human average strength.
Rochey wrote:I never said it was a realistic image, just the first one that came to mind.
Sorry - I didn't realize it would take a military historian like Seafort to decipher my code.
I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 21747
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!
Contact:

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Tsukiyumi »

Mikey wrote:Judging by the canon physiological features mentioned about Klingons, all geared to increasing stamina, damage resistance, etc., I'd say it's safe to assume that they also enjoyed natural greater-than-human average strength...
I don't remember the episode, but Worf lifted Bashir by the throat using one hand... Definately not average human strength.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Mark »

And Starfleet officers need the old double fisted punch to do any real damage.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

I think it's been canonicaly shown that Klingons are stronger than humans.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Mark »

Is anyone weaker that humans? Gees...............everyone is stronger than us
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

The Ferengi might be, though I'm not sure.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Post Reply