What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
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What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
Imagine each of the other captains - Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Archer - in the same ship on the same mission and the same thing happens. As far as the infamous "timer" issue, let's assume the array was destroyed some other way before they could get home - maybe in the course of a Kazon battle or something. How do they do they handle this situation differently? How far would they go in the name of getting home?
Even aside from the schizoid manner with which Janeway applied haughty Starfleet principles and her lapses in judgment which we would hope the others would not match, this is a tough challenge for any captain. Let's try to ignore the Janeway stuff and focus on the unique challenge posed, and how each of these men reacts. Let's give each his own main crew, since they seem to be packages that worked together. The rest of the random bodies around the ship don't matter much.
The limits of Voyager actually apply - exactly 38 torps and a finite supply of shuttles.
Even aside from the schizoid manner with which Janeway applied haughty Starfleet principles and her lapses in judgment which we would hope the others would not match, this is a tough challenge for any captain. Let's try to ignore the Janeway stuff and focus on the unique challenge posed, and how each of these men reacts. Let's give each his own main crew, since they seem to be packages that worked together. The rest of the random bodies around the ship don't matter much.
The limits of Voyager actually apply - exactly 38 torps and a finite supply of shuttles.
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
Well for weaponary Kirk would probably go pirate and steal them off someone.
Sisko would design some new type of weapon system to replace them.
Picard would bother and try to solve everything diplomatically and then if all else fails ram them.
Archer... well we've seen him do the pirate thing but that was when Earth was at risk. Probably try to trade for some.
Sisko would design some new type of weapon system to replace them.
Picard would bother and try to solve everything diplomatically and then if all else fails ram them.
Archer... well we've seen him do the pirate thing but that was when Earth was at risk. Probably try to trade for some.
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
Kirk would do what ever he has to do to get home, whatever that may be, while trying to stick to his principles(So basically Janeway with balls).
Sisko would try to negotiate but blast anyone who gets in his way.
Picard would make people cry from his boring speaches about something everyone knows.
Archer would try to negotiate with everyone, and if they don't give him what he wants he'll steal it.
Sisko would try to negotiate but blast anyone who gets in his way.
Picard would make people cry from his boring speaches about something everyone knows.
Archer would try to negotiate with everyone, and if they don't give him what he wants he'll steal it.
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I actually agree with most of this.ChakatBlackstar wrote:Kirk would do what ever he has to do to get home, whatever that may be, while trying to stick to his principles(So basically Janeway with balls).
Sisko would try to negotiate but blast anyone who gets in his way.
Picard would make people cry from his boring speaches about something everyone knows.
Archer would try to negotiate with everyone, and if they don't give him what he wants he'll steal it.
One thing about Archer is that he actually was in this situation. In one of those temporal shows ENT was stuck in the past and he stuck to his duty. Because of that I doubt he would go pirate. I think Picard would end up doing about the same thing as Janeway really. They're very similiar in their thinking. I kind of group Sisko and Kirk together too.
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I think Kirk would fall to piracy before Sisko though.
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
Kirk would just seduce their highest ranking female and get everything he needs without the need for piracy
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Whoring your self out for your crew... what a man.
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Indeed, what a sacrafice to make.
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
I feel that in general, all of them would have some similarities to Janeway. I mean, Picard and Kirk would still explore a little on their way back to Earth. They would also probly get back home in about the same time as Janeway. Though I doubt Picard would ever consider negotiating with the Borg.
Sisko, well I don't remember the series well enough to make any judjement.
Archer would get beat up several times during the course of the trip.
Sisko, well I don't remember the series well enough to make any judjement.
Archer would get beat up several times during the course of the trip.
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
Rememeber it was due to Janeways need to look at every speck of dust that got them home in 1/10 the time they were suppose to.
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
Well, that and a bit of deus ex machina on the part of the writers.Teaos wrote:Rememeber it was due to Janeways need to look at every speck of dust that got them home in 1/10 the time they were suppose to.
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You're saying we have Rochey to thank for ending the horror?Tsukiyumi wrote:Well, that and a bit of deus ex machina on the part of the writers.Teaos wrote:Rememeber it was due to Janeways need to look at every speck of dust that got them home in 1/10 the time they were suppose to.
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Say what? Why rochey why?!Captain Picard's Hair wrote:You're saying we have Rochey to thank for ending the horror?Tsukiyumi wrote:Well, that and a bit of deus ex machina on the part of the writers.Teaos wrote:Rememeber it was due to Janeways need to look at every speck of dust that got them home in 1/10 the time they were suppose to.
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What? You didn't already realise I was a twisted sadistic bastard?
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Re: What Would The Other Captains Have Done?
So, how about Chakotay and the Maquis crew? How does this go down under Picard, or Sisko, or...
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