Starbolt's Pride Stats

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:21 pm

Yeah, it seems to fit with what we've seen of other Federation vessels.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:45 am

Rochey wrote:even M/AM is a type of fusion, right?

No. M/AM reactions harness the energy resultant from the annihilation of all parties involved when a particle interacts with its antiparticle.

Jabber Swarky · Post by **Jabber Swarky** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:50 am

Mikey wrote:
Rochey wrote:even M/AM is a type of fusion, right?
No. M/AM reactions harness the energy resultant from the annihilation of all parties involved when a particle interacts with its antiparticle.

so its a type of fission?

Dont get those confused, kiddies. Or my Physics teacher will come hit you with a ruler x.x

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:50 pm

No. It's not a nuclear reaction in those terms at all.

particle "X" touches antiparticle of "X" = energetic annihilation of both particles. No nuclei are fused OR divided; no heavier OR less massive nuclei result from the process. No particles result at all except quanta - because energy is released.

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:06 pm

In case you didn't follow what Mickey said. In terms of reactions, fission, fusion, and annihilation all mean specific things scientifically and they are different. Antimatter reactions are annihilation.

However for most people if you put some Okra in a crÃªpe that's "fusion" and so on. So that's probably what Rochey was thinking.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:08 pm

Mmmmm... gumbo...

Sorry. *wipes drool*

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:33 pm

M/AM reactions harness the energy resultant from the annihilation of all parties involved when a particle interacts with its antiparticle.

Details, details....

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:41 pm

You're the one who asked, Mr. Grumpypants.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:43 pm

You're the one who asked, Mr. Grumpypants

To reiterate:
Details, details....

Jabber Swarky · Post by **Jabber Swarky** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm

Wait, the pariticle is destroyed? What happened to the laws of conservation? o.o I mean, yeah, energy is released, but... the amount of energy you could get from destroying a single atom of something big with a lot of protons then youve got more energy than i would have thought you'd ever need.

Still, you did say energy is released, though i dunno how that much energy is contained without killing everyone.. especially since destroying an atom would simultaniously release Alpha, Beta and Gamma Radiation... Hrm. Weel.. Hydrogen (and Deuterium, it's isotope, which is used in M/AM arrays) is only small witha few protons, so its only low level nastyness.

..Sorry, its just so many Scifi's dont adhere to the Laws of Conservation xD And it vexes me so.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:15 pm

Sorry, its just so many Scifi's dont adhere to reality xD And it vexes me so.

Fixed it for you.

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:01 pm

Jabber Swarky wrote: Still, you did say energy is released, though i dunno how that much energy is contained without killing everyone.

Dilithium don't you know.

Seriously though that is why a warp core breach is a very very bad thing.

It's also why a photon torpedo only needs 1.5kg of antimatter in it's warhead to deliver a hit that would otherwise require twenty metric tons (or more) of nuclear bomb.

As for "Laws" the advent of special relativity, quantum mechanics, and a number of other advances have actually proved a fair number of laws "wrong".

However the old laws are good enough for high school physics and so they are still taught. And of course they are still used at all levels so long as the assumptions in your problem allow you to use them as approximations.

Actually a fair bit of physics that is taught at the lower levels isn't quite right.

For example do you think of an atom as a nucleus surrounded by electrons in circular orbits? That's not what it is. Electrons in an atom aren't actually at a point until they're measured. And if you track where they are measured to approximate an orbit what you get looks like.

http://www.geo.arizona.edu/xtal/nats101/orbitals.jpg

Jabber Swarky · Post by **Jabber Swarky** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:03 am

Nah, i know about protons and quarks and such ^^. Though, Qantum is a bitch to get your head around =/

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:25 am

Hey Blackstar. Could you give some info on what is or is not in your ship?

For example do you have any crew in there already or did it just start off with the Daystrom squad, thrall, and Sally?

Also any comments on the presence or quality of things like sickbay, holodecks, science labs, industrial replicators, etc.

Or is the policy in things like this to not lay out stuff like that and instead wait until it comes up to decide?

I'd be inclined to lay it out mostly, possibly even with a deckplan. But I'm new at this format.

Post by **Mikey** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:33 am

Regarding laws of physics, what has been shown is that special relativity - which is based on traditional mechanical physics - breaks down into uselessness at the quantum-mechanical level. Thus, the search for the grail of physics, a true GUT (Grand Unified Theory.)

And thanks to Heisenberg, who showed the world that you can't tell where anything really is, the act of measuring the position of an electron will invariably change its velocity - whichmeans you can only be accurate on 50% of the relevant measurement.

As far as conservation, we have relativity to explain that. An M/AM reaction is one case of a transformation of mass into equivalent energy. Annihilation precludes transformation of matter to other matter, so I don't believe that H nuclei (protons,) alpha, or beta particles are released, although Thorin would probably be better suited to say if this is actually the case.