I noticed you didn't include Kirk in that list who couldn't carry themselves against Dukat.Deepcrush wrote:Its those kinds of people as to why I think DS9 was such a good show. Janeway, Picard or Archer couldn't have carried themselves against someone like Dukat. Sisko was needed as the counter for Dukat. Thats mostly because Sisko is the same as Dukat in all but a single fashion. That being that Sisko is driven by his moral compass where Dukat sees it as merely a tool to use against so who allow themselves to be swayed by their personal feelings.
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Pretty much, he was the right man in the right place at the right time.McAvoy wrote:... and that is why He is The Sisko.
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Because Kirk wouldn't have carried himself avaunt Dukat. Kirk would have beat the hell out of him, slept with his wife, slept with the Prophets, then to top it off would have beat up Worf just to say he hit a Klingon that episode.
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Deep wins one internet for that.Deepcrush wrote:Because Kirk wouldn't have carried himself avaunt Dukat. Kirk would have beat the hell out of him, slept with his wife, slept with the Prophets, then to top it off would have beat up Worf just to say he hit a Klingon that episode.
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The little known reason of why Klingons developed brow ridges is because Kirk punched their grandfathers so hard and it carried on from there
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Why thank you sir.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Deep wins one internet for that.
And then Kirk killed him and banged Dax right over his corpse.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Worf. "I was punched by James Kirk! I can die happy, now!"
You have just won the game.colmquinn wrote:The little known reason of why Klingons developed brow ridges is because Kirk punched their grandfathers so hard and it carried on from there
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Lol.....James T. Kirk IS the Chuck Norris of the 23rd (and 24th) century.
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I was thinking about it, and you know....I really think Janeway could have dealt with Dukat as well. After all, she's as psychotic and unpredictable as he is. Where Sisko was his match, and Kirk would beat the hell out of him, Janeway would have simply killed him at her first oppertunity.
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Good point.
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Problem is that Janeway was fooled often enough by people playing the "Moral High Ground" card. The major problem is that that was Dukat's favorite playing ground. Moral high ground doesn't matter to Sisko... at all. He punched Q, started a war with the Klingons, bio-wrecked a planet with Federation citizens on it and at the end of it turned around and picked a fight with the Dominion fleet.Mark wrote:I was thinking about it, and you know....I really think Janeway could have dealt with Dukat as well. After all, she's as psychotic and unpredictable as he is. Where Sisko was his match, and Kirk would beat the hell out of him, Janeway would have simply killed him at her first oppertunity.
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Mark wrote:Lol.....James T. Kirk IS the Chuck Norris of the 23rd (and 24th) century.
Nah... Chuck Norris is the James Kirk of the 20th/21st century.
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WIN!RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Nah... Chuck Norris is the James Kirk of the 20th/21st century.Mark wrote:Lol.....James T. Kirk IS the Chuck Norris of the 23rd (and 24th) century.
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Fixed. I fail to see the logic in insulting Kirk in such a manner, and as much as we might wish otherwise Kirk's performance in the 24th century was substandard.Mark wrote:Lol.....James T. Kirk IS theChuck NorrisRichard Sharpe of the 23rd(and 24th)century.
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I dunno about that. After all, Picard couldn't get the job done, so he had to go get Kirk. And to be fair, Kirk was almost a hundred years out of practice
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Agreed, while Kirk may have been showing his age (along with Shatner.) He still went into battle with the same strength of character that so many of us grew to respect. After Picard picked up Kirk, Kirk should have put Picard in timeout and brought in the Sisko. Though that would have meant the fight would have lasted about two seconds and we wouldn't have gotten Kirk's death scene which I really liked.Mark wrote:I dunno about that. After all, Picard couldn't get the job done, so he had to go get Kirk. And to be fair, Kirk was almost a hundred years out of practice
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