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SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:04 pm
by Captain Seafort
Blip

Yet another episode which I think Chuck's got the score a bit off. I'd give Unity a 5 or a 4 - partially through being distinctly average overall, partially because the return of the Borg deserved more than anaemic waffle. If they'd done it a few seasons, once they'd had their big opening, I might have been a bit more charitable.

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:57 pm
by katefan
Agreed. The episode was nothing special at all. It was eps. like this that castrated the Borg, turned them into something unspectacular.

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:05 pm
by McAvoy
Yeah. I think it would have been better if they just done Scorpion first then this. But then it would have ended up being a Seven episode.

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:25 am
by Deepcrush
Really, even for a Voy ep I'd only give it a 3/10. It had a chance to be interesting and had some good plot opportunity... but all was lost yet again.

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:26 pm
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:Really, even for a Voy ep I'd only give it a 3/10. It had a chance to be interesting and had some good plot opportunity... but all was lost yet again.
That only makes it an average Voyager ep, and I think 3 would be harsh - it at least had some decent ideas and demonstrated an attempt to think outside the box regarding Borg episodes, even though the execution left a lot to be desired.

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:05 pm
by Deepcrush
I could feel safe in giving it a 4/10 but the problem for me is that they clearly had something to work with and still screwed it up.

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:42 pm
by Tyyr
In the broad strokes they had something but only in the very broad strokes. If they'd given the story a bit of nuance it might have been something but Voyager never had the stones for much morally gray kind of stuff.

I think that this would have been a very good episode if you had on one side the non-collectivists who are willing to use violence and don't want to be integrated fighting against the collectivists who deplore violence but are looking to essentially brainwash their foes into giving up. Let it be kind of gray and at the end have the leader woman functioning almost like a Borg Queen. Have this be put forward as a possible way the Borg came into being. Well intentioned people with bad judgment.

However it never came even close to that. I'd probably go with a 3 out of spite. This wasn't a horrible idea done anemically, it was a potentially excellent idea absolutely squandered.

Then again by Chuck's rating scale wouldn't that make this a 5, par for the course for Voyager?

Re: SFDebris: Unity

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:03 pm
by McAvoy
It's a 6 on the Voayger scale in my book but overall Trek-wise, it is a 3, maybe a 4.

Hindsight wise, it had potential to make it better. I don't know, maybe instead of Unimatrix Zero they could have done something like this instead.