SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

The Original Series
Post Reply
Tyyr
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10654
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:49 pm
Location: Jeri Ryan's Dressing Room, Shhhhh

SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Tyyr »

Last edited by Tyyr on Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Lighthawk
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
Posts: 4632
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Missouri, USA, North America, Earth, Sol System, Orion Arm, Milkyway Galaxy, Local Group, Universe

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Lighthawk »

Tyyr wrote:Enjoy
...I can't. Damn work filters!
Image
Tyyr
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10654
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:49 pm
Location: Jeri Ryan's Dressing Room, Shhhhh

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Tyyr »

"Richard Nixon, who most of you know as the villain in Futurama."

"However this can be forgiven because Valeris is hot."
User avatar
kostmayer
Captain
Captain
Posts: 2812
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:08 am

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by kostmayer »

Tyyr wrote:"However this can be forgiven because Valeris is hot."
So was Saavik!
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Deepcrush »

Is it me or did he seem less committed to this review then he does with most?
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Tyyr
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10654
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:49 pm
Location: Jeri Ryan's Dressing Room, Shhhhh

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Tyyr »

I can agree with that. Given how in depth his look at Wrath of Khan was this does come off as very shallow.
Nickswitz
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
Posts: 6748
Joined: Sun May 25, 2008 5:34 pm
Location: Home
Contact:

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Nickswitz »

Yeah, it does seem like he was very uninterested in this review.
The world ended

"Insanity -- a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world" - R.D.Lang
stitch626
2 Star Admiral
2 Star Admiral
Posts: 9585
Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:57 pm
Location: NY
Contact:

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by stitch626 »

Maybe he was tired when he recorded it. Or he had a bad week.
No trees were killed in transmission of this message. However, some electrons were mildly inconvenienced.
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Deepcrush »

Oh I'm sure there was something to it. It could also have been that he was lacking points to make on it. STVI was a solidly built movie. Very few things to trip over.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Captain Seafort »

Deepcrush wrote:Oh I'm sure there was something to it. It could also have been that he was lacking points to make on it. STVI was a solidly built movie. Very few things to trip over.
The same's true of TWoK. The difference, I think, is that while II had layer upon layer to peel away, VI was just very solidly built, which reduces the degree of analysis possible.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Reliant121 »

TWoK always strikes me as the thinking persons TMP film, because it had a plethora of hidden messages and subplots to tap into. In contrast, TUD always struck me as a more plain and simple film. Both are enjoyable and very well made, but TWoK always seemed deeper, where TUD seemed more....gentle and "switch off" film.
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Deepcrush »

STII was for Khan. Thought upon thought, idea upon idea. A thousand plans with little sub-plans of their own.

STVI was for Kirk. Brash, brute and in the open. Kirk doesn't look for little tricks or ploys. He fights until he wins or dies. Then fights a little more for good luck.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 13019
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

Good review, there. It's... what ST VI was. A good review for a good movie.
Tyyr
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10654
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:49 pm
Location: Jeri Ryan's Dressing Room, Shhhhh

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Tyyr »

I gotta agree. TWoK had a lot of stuff going on below the surface, TUC didn't. It's not a bad movie, in fact it's probably my favorite TOS cast movie, it's just not got as much going on as TWoK. There's nothing to pick at because of how well it was done and not a ton of depth to get into.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Post by Sionnach Glic »

I'm inclined to agree. His TWOK review was so in-depth and detailed because it was a movie which required an in-depth and detailed analysis. TUC, despite being a good movie, is fairly simple. Thus we get a simple review.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Post Reply