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SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:22 pm
by Captain Seafort

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:28 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
I like the final comment about the mirror-verse. :P Yeah, not too bad an episode here.

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:44 pm
by Tyyr
Too bad they didn't do more like this with Neelix. Might have made him tolerable.

Vorrik never struck me as a bad portrayal of a Vulcan. He's just an example of one of the ones who look down their noses at everyone else.

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:07 pm
by Mark
You know, it seems that nearly every Vulcan portrayed was an arrogant prick aside from Spock. But what do Vulcans really HAVE to be superior about? Humans completely outstripped them in just a couple hundred years.

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:08 pm
by Captain Seafort
Maybe it isn't arrogance - it's them sulking. :P

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:57 pm
by Tyyr
Arrogance isn't always logical. They might not be basing it on technological achievement but on their control of their own emotions.

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:22 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Tyyr wrote:Arrogance isn't always logical. They might not be basing it on technological achievement but on their control of their own emotions.
Don't forget their "superior" intellect and physical capability.

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:24 pm
by Captain Seafort
"Superior" as in consistently outwitted, and later outfought by Captain Punchbag? :lol:

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:32 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Captain Seafort wrote:"Superior" as in consistently outwitted, and later outfought by Captain Punchbag? :lol:
Yeah. :lol:

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:23 pm
by Reliant121
Arrogance, especially around intelligence, I find is often quite untrue. Upper class people viewed themselves as superior and more intelligent than lower class, but class has nothing to do with individual intelligence.

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:40 pm
by Mark
I'm re-reading a book series by my favorite author (David Eddings) right now. One of his characters is a lower "class" squire named Kurik who's easily the smartest and has the most common sense. He calls his betters, the Knights of the Church "Shallow and empty headed men". heh heh

Re: SFDebris - Fair Trade

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:50 am
by Aaron
Reliant121 wrote:Arrogance, especially around intelligence, I find is often quite untrue. Upper class people viewed themselves as superior and more intelligent than lower class, but class has nothing to do with individual intelligence.
They were probably better educated (or at least had the opportunity to be) then Joe Bloggins slaving in a coal mine, thats how I'm starting to view the Vulcan's.

I'm reminded of a line in The Warlord, were a knight proudly proclaims that he is a knight (and therefore more important then a priest) but the priest retorts that he can write letters.