OVEG: The Q And The Grey

Post by **Nutso** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:57 pm

Kenneth Biller is a hack Part 1
Kenneth Biller is a hack Part 2

OVEG gets angrier as the review goes on.

Post by **Mikey** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:18 pm

Can't say as I blame him.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:16 am

That episode DID completely destroy all seriousness of the Q.

Tyyr · Post by **Tyyr** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:32 pm

I finally got around to watching it.

I've pretty much blanked out any memory of the Q in Voyager. He always seemed like a desperate bid for ratings on the show's part. Having them turn into everything Q professed them not to be was just awful. So many stupid things about that episode, it was awful even by Voyager standards.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:33 pm

Mark wrote:That episode DID completely destroy all seriousness of the Q.

Funny, I don't recall any being left at that point.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:21 pm

Jesus. I never saw that episode, so I had no idea just how godawful it really was.

Tyyr · Post by **Tyyr** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:55 pm

It's really really bad. Probably top ten worst Voyager episodes just for the bad writing. Probably top three if you start to actually think about it and how badly constructed it is.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:23 pm

Hell, I think I'd rather watch Threshold than this one. At least that episode was unintentionaly hilarious. This one just looks plain bad.

Tyyr · Post by **Tyyr** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:25 pm

Depends, would you rather see science and logic raped or characterization raped.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:28 pm

Science every time - something can be scientifically ludicrous, but still be a good story. See Star Trek, Star Wars, BSG, B5, Doctor Who, the Culture, Stargate, etc, etc. Bad characterisation means a bad story.

Tyyr · Post by **Tyyr** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:36 pm

Well this one is a really really bad story.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:38 pm

Spot-on review. This ep was the VOY equivalent of Vogon poetry.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:51 pm

Tyyr wrote:Depends, would you rather see science and logic raped or characterization raped.

I'm with Seafort. Science being raped is a daily occurance in sci-fi. Hell, I'm a 40K fan, I'm more than used to non-sensical tech and science.
And in the process of fucking up science spectacularly, you can make something that's hilariously bad. Like Paris suddenly turning into a newt. Not so when it comes to raping and mutilating an entire race and making them pathetic.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:44 pm

At least Paris got better.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:50 pm

Hmm. I wonder if the magic drive weighed the same as a duck?

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