TW: Children of Earth

[kostmayer]

Yeah, people call him dull, but he's always been one of my fave characters.

[colmquinn]

That was a really good episode. The tough decisions and dark tones of it really p*ss all over dr who but then again torchwood was planned as a more grown up version of who.

[Captain Seafort]

torchwood was planned as a more grown up version of who.

About bloody time they delivered on that.

I'm wondering how this is going to end - whether it'll finish tonight, or whether it'll run into the next DW special.

[Sionnach Glic]

Jesus, that was dark. Bloody brilliant, though. I don't think Torchwood's ever had me on the edge of my seat like I was tonight. I was sure they were going to pulll a Deus Ex Machina ending where the bad guys would get what they deserved and all the good guys would be happy and fine. It's good to see that they didn't pull any punches at the end.
I felt really sorry for John Forbisher (Sp?), and was rather stunned at what he did (I thought he was just going to kill himself).

That said, I do believe we've seen our last ever episode of Torchwood. Which is a shame, as that was some excellent writing.

From me, Children Of Earth gets a 5/5 rating. Not something I'd ever have imagined giving a Torchwood episode, but it was well deserved.

[colmquinn]

Yeah i reckon that was the end of torchwood, at least with the current lineup anyway.

Great episode and indeed the whole story was well done. Frobisher's actions I suppose were the only way to give his character some kind of "decent" way out.

The ending was excellent

The ending with jack sacrificing the child and not having some kind of shit like he had similar power to jack or that jack could bring him back was well done and leaving the 456 as only being chased off means that they can come back in future or in dr who as wanting revenge was nicely left open

[Nutso]

This was a really good miniseries. The ending was the real payoff though. Such choices to make, and the choices stick and hurt. I can't remember seeing such a dark ending on a television show before. That was something else.

What colmquinn said about

the 456 crossing paths with the Doctor, I can only imagine the fury of the Time Lord at the sight of children being used as recreational drugs.

[Nutso]

Did the British government do the right thing?

[Sionnach Glic]

There's not much else they could do.

[colmquinn]

They could have

brought torchwood in from the start instead of trying to kill them. if they were as madly fearful about jack revealing the past they could've just threatened to reveal his part in it and to get him to keep quiet. Not sure how things would've played out much differently overall but then I'd trust torchwood to have the know how to work out some sort of plan before things got too out of hand

Or maybe it would've all come to nothing

(Not sure why I spoilered that really)

[Sionnach Glic]

Aye, it was foolish to try and kill of Torchwood (I don't think we need to bother spoilerising the thread, it's already full of such spoilers). Though it probably would have just resulted in Ianto's death a lot quicker.

[colmquinn]

Though it probably would have just resulted in Ianto's death a lot quicker.

And just made it a 2 of 3 parter rather filling a whole week for the beeb
I'm really glad that the bbc used a longer story format though and that they hopefully carry the longer more in depth idea into dr who though I don't hold out much hope since who is aimed at a slightly younger audience.

[Captain Seafort]

I'm really glad that the bbc used a longer story format though and that they hopefully carry the longer more in depth idea into dr who though I don't hold out much hope since who is aimed at a slightly younger audience.

I don't know. If they turned individual stories into, say, 4- or 6-parters of 25 minutes each, maybe that could work.

[colmquinn]

Back to the old format, though I doubt they'll go that way because not that they've gotten an hour an episode they're not likely to give up the time slot. I'd like it to be more like series consisting of mostly 2 parters and the final being a 3 part with a couple of single episodes sprinkled through it to keep people with short attention spans interested.

[Nutso]

I'm a little torn about things. I'd have loved for the public to find out what the government was up to.

[Graham Kennedy]

Did the British government do the right thing?

Not to my mind. I'd have told them to get stuffed.