Re: The Finale
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:27 pm
So... I'm getting that you didn't like it?
Tsukiyumi wrote:So... I'm getting that you didn't like it?
Frankly, I think the entire series was over rated. There were some decent elements to it but I hated Starbuck with a passion and it could have done with a little more thinking through. They are now going to do a series showing the conflict from the Cylon's side, both to make money and because they did not do a very good job at explaining the Cyon plan in the first place. I mean, they seem to find breeding a half human/Cylon hybrid to be important but they nuke Mankind almost completely out of existence. Wouldn't it have made more sense to nuke 11 of the 12 colonies and to conquer the 12th?Tsukiyumi wrote:So... I'm getting that you didn't like it?
Hera turned out to be our species' ancestor. That's pretty important.First of all, I found no real importance to Helo and Boomer mk II's child.
Why? Just how long could those ships have been kept running for, anyway? Galactica was crippled, and I'd imagine that it was far more capable of standing up to the rigours of being constantly on the run than civilian cruise ships and freighters. Within a few months, maybe a year at best, the fleet would probably have fallen apart due to lack of maintanence and spare parts. It was a choice between settling on New Earth, or slowly dying off in space.Second, the destruction of the fleet made no sense whatsoever.
Yeah, they could have. That was a leap of faith on the behalf of the Colonials. But exactly what could they have done to prevent that, if the Cylons wanted them dead? Nothing. They had one crippled Battlestar that was on the verge of breaking apart, and a bunch of unarmed civilian ships. They'd be fucked anyway, regardless of whether they were in ships or on the surface of a planet. Being in ships just gives a few of them the slight chance of escaping the attack, thus being doomed to a slow death as they wander among the stars. Again, they had no other options.The liberated Cylons could always come back and wipe out humanity.
As I pointed out, exactly what other options do they have? With the Galactica fucked beyond any hope of repair, they're defenceless. Galactica also processed a third of the fleet's water supplies. When its processing systems went down in Water, thousands of people were at risk of death from dehydration. Exactly how are they going to stop this happening again? Leaving New Earth alone and continuing to wander the galaxy aimlessly would doom thousands to a slow and unpleasant death.How 30,000 people agreed to strand themselves on a single world with potential enemies still out there-potential enemies that knew where they were!-was moronic.
Yeah, Lee's speach was retarded. No arguments there. Then again, he's always been rather naive and idealistic in certain matters.Third, destruction of the fleet to get back to nature or whatever complete nonsense Lee sold his Dad was beyond stupid.
Since when were they "largely city born people"?. First of all, how are 30,000 largely city born people supposed to become farmers and hunters? They come from a hi-tech society and are thrown back into the stone age overnight.Who is going to agree to do this?
Obviously, none of it survived. Lee was just being idealistic about the whole thing, thinking that they'd become some sort of low-tech utopia. Obviously, they didn't.Lee talks about breaking the cycle by doing this, but how is the cycle supposed to be broken when history will be forgotten because all forms of physical literature are going to be lost over time and electronic information is none existent? Oral history does not work; how many oral stories outside of Beowolf actually survived, and how many would survive 150,000 years?
Now you're getting it.Lee is a moron. It is obvious this keeps happening again because people keep forgetting what happened before! He has some sort of hippie-fied idea that their new age religion or whatever is going to so transform these aboriginals that a golden age will appear.
Aye, the flasbacks were pretty damn pointless. They were nothing important or interesting.Finally, the flashbacks were padding, pure and simple. I did not need to see Adama looking for a new job, Roslyn sleeping with a guy and deciding to join a presidential campaign or Baltar inadvertently selling out humanity to Six.
What plot holes? Pretty much everything was explained.This was not All Good Things, it was not even What You Leave Behind. It was lame and the writers/director were desperately hoping all the happy, feel good moments would cover up the gaping plot holes. Looks like it worked.
Yeah, Starbuck was a fucking annoying character. How does that make the finale suck? Apart from one action, she did nothing of any real note in that episode.Hell, Starbuck got Lee's brother and Adama's son killed, slept with Lee behind Duella's and her husband's back, and was pretty much an arrogant bitch throughout the series. They made her the greatest pilot, the greatest marksman, an excellent boxer and a champion Pyramid player. Can you say Mary Sue? Munchkin?
?Lee? Candy ass, utterly whipped. I found nothing redeeming about his character, with half his motivation being Daddy issues and the other half being led around by his dick by Starbuck.
Remind me again; why are you watching this show if you hate everyone on it?God how I hated most of these characters. Just a pathetic bunch I wish could have died with the rest of humanity.
ONE OF...Rochey wrote:True, but one character defect doesn't change the fact that she's good at damn near everything.
She's one of the best pilots.
She's one of the best shooters.
She's one of their best tacticians.
She's a painter.
She's able to play the piano.
She's got a destiny that will lead to the survival of humanity.
Etc.
And that's just off the top of my head.
No it doesn't because your not a character in someones fiction. I can forgive any of the hobbies, that's no big deal but to be an ace fighter pilot and an ace sniper? That stretches SoD so thin it might be catgut.Tsukiyumi wrote:I can shoot rather well.
I've never had the opportunity to fly, but I ace simulators every time.
I paint.
I play the guitar, bass guitar, keyboards, xylophone, and I'm a decent singer.
I write at a college level, even though I never finished 9th grade.
In fights, I tend to come out on top due to superior training, and keeping a cool head.
I can also do plumbing work, carpentry, and electrical.
Off the top of my head. Does that make me a real-life Gary Stu?
I haven't seen the show, so I'm not really attacking your argument; I'm just pointing out that just because a character is talented in a number of different fields doesn't necessarily make them unrealistic.