Dogfight 1: 'Valiant' Dominion Battleship vs Sovereign

[Granitehewer]

Both ships with regular non-hero crews, no external support, no deus ex machina, no plot devices etc

[Sionnach Glic]

Could we have a bit more info on the scenario? Just comparing their strength indices from the main site, the Battleship has a slight advantage.

[Captain Seafort]

The battleship is close to twice the length of the Sov, and given it's far more solid design probably outmasses it by an order of magnitude or more. On top of that Dominion tech tends to be more advanced than AQ tech. The Sov would get ripped apart.

[Tsukiyumi]

The Valiant didn't do too well, cadet crew or not. I'm with Seafort - the Sov's manuverability advantage would be offset by the Battleship's heavy weapons. Tough battle, but a win for the Battleship.

[mlsnoopy]

THe battleship is 3 times as strong as a GSC. We can compare a sov to the gsc. Here Rochey is right, the battleship should be slightly stronger than the sov but it would lose out on manuverbility. It's to close to call.

The battleship is close to twice the length of the Sov, and given it's far more solid design probably outmasses it by an order of magnitude or more

Beacause its big it wins. Well the GSC is bigger than the sov but no one will go and argue that because its bigger its also stronger.

On top of that Dominion tech tends to be more advanced than AQ tech

Its diffrent but after getting to know it the fed didn't have any trouble countering it.

[Mark]

In a straight head to head fight, the Batleship has it. But as we know, fights are NEVER just head to head and that simple. But, the Battleship does have a significant advantage.

[m52nickerson]

I think the Sovereign could use it maneuverability to stay out of the firing arc of the battle ships main guns, while bringing all of its weapons to bear and concentrating fire on a single shield.

[Tsukiyumi]

I think the Sovereign could use it maneuverability to stay out of the firing arc of the battle ships main guns, while bringing all of its weapons to bear and concentrating fire on a single shield.

I was thinking something similar. I suppose it all depends on the scenario - if they start firing at a good distance, the Battleship might tear the Sov apart before they could manuver out of the firing arcs.

[m52nickerson]

I think the Sovereign could use it maneuverability to stay out of the firing arc of the battle ships main guns, while bringing all of its weapons to bear and concentrating fire on a single shield.

I was thinking something similar. I suppose it all depends on the scenario - if they start firing at a good distance, the Battleship might tear the Sov apart before they could manuver out of the firing arcs.

Maybe, but the Valiant took a few hit to destroy, so I think a Sov could take at least one volley pretty much in tacked.

[Mark]

True, but a ship the size of the battleship is designed with her lack of manuverability in mind, which is why she'll have more weapons covering various firing arcs. The Sov may be able to avoid some of it's primary weapons systems, but certainly couldn't avoid getting hit completely. Again, it would really depend on a multitude of factors IMO

[m52nickerson]

We really don't know enough about the battleship. Was it designed as an anti-ship weapon, or was it to take on bases with support ships to handle enemy vessels?

[Tsukiyumi]

Or, perhaps as a fleet command/engagement vessel? You're right, we don't know enough about it to do more than guess based on it's performance in "Valiant". I, for one, don't believe it used anywhere near it's full firepower to destroy the Valiant. Or maybe some of the systems were damaged in the Valiant's attack. More guesswork...

[Teaos]

THe battleship is 3 times as strong as a GSC

Its three times as powerful, not strong. Power is only one of many important factors in battle.

I think when they said three times as powerful they only ment its power output.

[Mark]

I dunno if I agree with that. I think it was an overall strength comparison, personally.

[Teaos]

How would they judge that?

They can scan power, they can't get accurate readings on the weapons power, agility ect.