Page 2 of 3

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:28 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Wouldn't that create a lot of problems, such as issues with recoil?

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:56 pm
by Reliant121
Recoil is only really channeled into the turret, in Plasma weapons. If the turret's gyro-stabilizers cannot compensate, the ship rocks. THe higher the weapon, the more stabilizers you have to fit. if you dont, you will end up with your deck in the water.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:17 pm
by Captain Seafort
The biggest problem wouldn't be with regards to the recoil capsising the ship (look at battleships firing broadsides - they don't noticably roll) but with the mounting itself. From what you're saying, these weapons appear to be simply bolted to the deck, rather than being an integral part of the design. Unless you're very careful about where you put the things, and how you attatch them, you run the risk of a shot ripping the entire weapon away, possibly taking a good chunk of the deck with it.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:29 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Yeah, that's what I was reffering to.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:31 pm
by Reliant121
Ah i see. That thought had not occurred to me.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:36 pm
by Reliant121
I suppose it might be possible that the turret comes with all the firing equipment deployed below the hull line, that is slid into a large slot in the hull. Would having a huge chunk of metal that is hard locked into the hull reduce some of this issue?

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:56 pm
by Captain Seafort
It might reduce it a bit, if only by increasing the mass of the unit. What you really need is to build the ships with a strong frame, and specific points on that frame to attatch the gun mounts to. You can't just slap them onto any bit of the deck willy-nilly, just because it looks nice/gives good firing arcs/you want more guns, etc.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:59 pm
by Reliant121
oh i didnt mean that you could put them anywhere! dear gods no. I meant you can put a variety of of weapons on specialized hard-points. If you want more hard-points, you make serious and highly uneconomical, not to mention likely unstable modifications to the hull itself.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:02 pm
by Captain Seafort
Ah, right - you should be alright then, although for the nitty-gritty you'd be best off asking Abraxas for his input. I'm a military historian, not an engineer.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:25 pm
by Mikey
Does anyone in the Terran government have an issue with selling mil-spec bombardment weapons to private entities or individuals?

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:08 pm
by Reliant121
These are nowhere near Military spec. The sizes are the same, but the power output and the rate of fire are much reduced. Plus, only licensed sellers are permitted to develop weaponry, and they have a hell of a lot of red tape to make sure of completely legal transactions. There are also limits as to how many vessels of a certain type one man may control. The whole point about the limitations is, if you put a Civvy battleship against a military one, even a Terran one, the military one would wipe the floor.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:29 pm
by Mikey
OK. I didn't know such checks were in place.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:56 pm
by Reliant121
believe me, its bloody hard to get some of this stuff. For owning a battleship, there are about 6 cross referenced security checks, then 4 eligibility checks, plus a contract about legal usage, then a license to be bought...etc.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:37 pm
by Reliant121
Kiei Battleship

Image

The Kiei battleship is a design built to fill the roll of low end battleship in the Corporations market. She has 3 hard-points for heavy calibre guns, up to 15" barrel sizes; the armament shown is those from the Matsuda's own weapons package of 3 twin mount 14" standard plasma cannons with a re-fire rate of 1 shot : 10 seconds (duel to cool down) per barrel. There are also 2 hard-points for medium calibre guns, up to 8" barrels; the weapons shown are 2 7.5" plasma stream cannons with a re-fire rate of 1 shot: 5 seconds per barrel. There are 8 hard points for small calibre cannons (5" or lower) that are often Dual purpose systems; shown are 8 single 50" Dual purpose plasma cannons with a re-fire of 1 shot every second. Finally, there are 12 AA hard-points (50mm or lower); on this package, the armament is 12 twin 20 mm guns with a re-fire rate of 1 shot: 0.25 seconds. The top speed is a terribly low 30 knots, owing purely to the huge size of this leviathanical craft. She is powered by 4 medium capacity fusion reactors, all venting into the central funnel.

Re: Matsuda Corperation Ships and equipment

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:39 am
by Monroe
You've mentioned before these ships can exchange fire with space ships. It doesn't look like these guns can point up. That an optical illusion or a design problem of the manufactuers?