Voyager the Ubership

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Was watching my Borg special edition collection and got to wondering. One cube decimated a fleet at Wolf 359 and nearly destroyed the most powerful ship of it's time in Starfleet. Another cube had a running battle with a 2nd prepaired fleet, and was only stopped at Earth's doorstep, inflicting heavy losses on powerful ships DESIGNED to engage the Borg. Yet Voyager, a small scout/explorer engaged and defeated the Borg on several occasions, engaging more that one ship at once a couple of times.

Can anyone think of anyway this could have been made possible aside from plot power or quantum???
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The fact that they had 7 of 9 on their side so they know things that those at wolf 359 didn't know. Make sense?
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From an intelligence standpoint, I suppose, but that shouldn't have allowed them to engage and later escape from a tactical cube, I don't think.
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True, I don't know then.
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Well, for the tactical cube, it was stated in the episode that the cube had a weak link to the collective, so its proccessing may be slower.
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Mark wrote: plot power or quantum???
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I suppose an in universe explination would be unreasonable. :roll: It IS Voyager we're talking about after all.
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Janeway was that good of a captain. :roll:
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Voyager knew how to fight the Borg due to the first two attacks and Seven, when the Feds first came across the Borg they tired to fight them traditionally, now they know that does work so they do better tactics, Voyager almost never attacked the Borg head on, which is how the Federation got curb stomped so many times.
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VOY survived because they didn't actualy engage the Borg in a shooting match. Whenever they encountered a Cube they always tried to run away.
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Or at the most ran at a Cube fast then ran away. They never said "Oh there's a Borg cube, lets attack it"... well apart from Endgame.
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There were a couple of occassions when they did engage the Borg head-on - "Dark Frontier" and "Unimatrix Zero". In the former they were attacked by a Borg scout ship and destroyed it with a few phaser blasts and some chicanery with the transporter. Janeway also stated (and given the effectiveness of Voyager's attack was probably being truthful) that Voyager outgunned the scout.

On the second occassion, they attacked a "class four tactical cube" (i.e. a normal one plus a flak jacket) and by throwing the kitchen sink at it managed to slip a team inside using a very similar trick to Worf and Data's in BoBW II. There was never any suggestion that continuing the battle would result in anything but Voyager's destruction.
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And thank goodness for that last fact. Having Voyager slug it out with a tac cube and win would stretch even any plot device that could be inserted.
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If by "stretch" you mean "be the most blatant Deus Ex Machina in the history of Trek" then I agree completely.
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