5th Edition Rule Book for 40k!

[Deepcrush]

It's here! Praise the God-Emperor! His blessing has come!

[Aaron]

Huzzah! Praise be to GW, fucking us in the ass since 1986!

So what's changed in it? I heard that Orks had their toughness reduced...

[Deepcrush]

No, orks did have the choppa rule removed I believe.

New wounding rules built to spread out hits across a squad. You no longer get to pick which guys take the hits.

New vehicle damage rules which make them far more useful in game and less simple to take out.

'Line of Sight' now based on true line of sight. If your squad can't see them you can't shoot them, same goes for the other guy.

New cover save roles.

Thats all I got for now, haven't finished reading the new rule book and haven't picked up the new Ork codex.

[Sionnach Glic]

I might drop into town over the week and pick it up. I've been meaning to pick up some books from there.

[Deepcrush]

You should, like all things about the God-Emperor its jelly goodness.

[Reliant121]

You should, like all things about the God-Emperor its jelly goodness.

oh dear lord. - -

[Aaron]

oh dear lord. - -

The fluff is cool, the constant rewriting of the rules to sell Codex's...not so cool.

[Mikey]

oh dear lord. - -

The fluff is cool, the constant rewriting of the rules to sell Codex's...not so cool.

That identifies it as GW more than any trademark could.

[Aaron]

That identifies it as GW more than any trademark could.

You know, if they would just update their business model to 2008 they'd be fine. Let people use their images freely, allow fanfilms/fiction, get on the net and promote the hell out of the universe, stop selling (almost) excusively in their crappy little shops, drop the prices.

But hey if they did that they wouldn't have gone from 15million$ in profit to 5 in the last five years.

[Sionnach Glic]

Indeed. Games Workshop: screwing over their customers since X AD.

[Mikey]

It just doesn't make business sense to me. I mean, yes, you have to hold on to your trademarks - that's why Johnson and Johnson owns, well, everything. But they have such a marketable product - not just the games, but the fic, the background info, everything. I couldn't even quantify how many more devotees they would get if they didn't sue to prevent fan films from being released, or made their products more accessible.

[Aaron]

It just doesn't make business sense to me. I mean, yes, you have to hold on to your trademarks - that's why Johnson and Johnson owns, well, everything. But they have such a marketable product - not just the games, but the fic, the background info, everything. I couldn't even quantify how many more devotees they would get if they didn't sue to prevent fan films from being released, or made their products more accessible.

I seem to recall that Blizzard created Starcraft after GW refused to license WH40K to them. So we got WH40K light.

[Mikey]

Exactly - GW would have picked up both the licensing fees and lord-knows how many new customers via a release like that.

[Sionnach Glic]

Yeah, considering how popular that game was, they could have made a fortune and gotten a tonne of marketing from it.

[Deepcrush]

GW, good on games and stories, bad on business.