DW 30x13: Journey's End

[Captain Seafort]

Here we go then.

[kostmayer]

1. Gah, 3 cop outs, but I'm glad Torchwood and Sarah Jane survived. Gwen, Inato and Sarah Jane are hot - yes, I said Inato and Sarah Jane.
2. Donna is also cute. How did that happen? Fancying Billie is bad enough, is this some gift from the Daleks.
3. Flying Daleks aren't scary. They were much more intimidating driving round like Dodgem Cars in Genesis of the Daleks.
4. If Davros was gonna destroy the Universe, it should be with a virus, and he should have got the idea from Tom Baker's Doctor.
5. The Doctor doesn't need Davros to tell him that dead people follow in his wake, that school teacher Joan did it to much better effect in The Family of Blood. It means more when it doesn't come from a genocidal maniac.
6. Make it 4 cop outs. They could have at least offed K-9.

[Thorin]

I was hoping Donna would die. It's a real shame there's some possiblity of a comeback from Tate...
I must admit I missed the first 25 minutes so I didn't quite get what was going on with the 2 Doctors and the like, though

[Thorin]

I was hoping Donna would die. It's a real shame there's some possiblity of a comeback from Tate...
I must admit I missed the first 25 minutes so I didn't quite get what was going on with the 2 Doctors and the like, though

[Captain Seafort]

Regeneration reset button - I told you so.

Regarding Donna, both with the scene in the Tardis with the Doctor's hand and after she'd been shot by Davros, I was expecting another Chamelon Arch routine. Her turning out to be Romana would have made a lot more sense than the gibberish we got.

Overall though, a great episode. I'm not sure if RTD intended the reaction to the whole thing to be howls of laughter for the entire hour, but if he did he suceeded brilliantly.

[Sionnach Glic]

More plot devices than you can shake a stick at. The key, the warp star, the Davros-buster gun, Doctor Donna, K-9, etc.
Looks like Mickey and Martha might be finding their way into Torchwood's employment.
I felt a bit sorry for Donna at the end, though. It's a but of a pitty she wasn't able to remember all the things she did.
The TARDIS is supposed to be crewed by 6? That explains a lot.
The Doctor's regeneration was a cop-out. Figured.
Loved Jack's "You don't want to know what I'm thinking right now" line.
The writers missed out on a great oppertunity. When Dalek Khan betrayed Davros, Davros should have yelled "KHAAAAAAN!"

Overall, not a bad episode. But by no means the best. I'd give this maybe 6/10.

[Captain Seafort]

More plot devices than you can shake a stick at. The key, the warp star, the Davros-buster gun, Doctor Donna, K-9, etc.

You forgot Captain Scarlet.

Overall, not a bad episode. But by no means the best. I'd give this maybe 6/10.

I'd give it an 8. It isn't the best plot by a long way, but it had plenty of action, a classic villain of the moustache-twirling variety, general wackiness, and lots and lots of explosions. It's certainly the best of the action-orientated (rather than plot-orientated) episodes.

[Sionnach Glic]

Good point.

[Graham Kennedy]

Well that was frentic.

I bought the idea of getting rid of the excess regeneration energy... I bought it making a new doctor... I bought it making a Doctor/Donna hybrid too.

This suffered from the same thing the last did; so many people to cram in, it made it too crowded and jumpy. The warp star or whatever it was called, the thingie key, putting in a Jack resurrection, all that... just too much to take in.

I was impressed by Donna/Doctor. Tate did a really good job as uber-Donna, I thought. In fact I liked all the individual bits, they just didn't gel all that great for me.

Oh, the Tardis towing Earth? Super, super, SUPER cool idea.

[kostmayer]

I did like the "take a guess which planet" line - a nod the fact that Earth keeps popping up all the time in the Doctors adventurers. Its one of my fave plot tricks - when an inconvenient story element is too big to ignore (such as a characters age - Clint and Shatner, I'm looking at you), just tackle it straight on.

[colmquinn]

meh a couple of good scenes and one liners but overall not worth the build up. Not one I'd bother watching again.

[Reliant121]

I quite enjoyed it. Tate did a really good job playing doctor donna i thought. There were elements that were a tad iffy, like the millions of things to use to destroy the dalek plans. I think Davros, or whoever played him, did a marvellious job.

[Captain Seafort]

Indeed - and one of the best bits of the episode was the bit of reminiscing between Davros and Sarah, or at least Davros remembering her.

[Sionnach Glic]

I think Sarah Jane's reaction to the Daleks and Davros was a great bit in last weeks episode.

[Nutso]

I can't believe it was Dalek Kaan who has been manipulating time in this way. He's been driving Donna Noble to this ending. So Donna Noble was indeed the most important woman in the Universe all along. I thought Donna would have to die for the Doctor. Thankfully it didn't come to that. She saved the Universe and everyone in it. I am going to miss Donna a lot.

Dalek Kaan is the greatest Dalek ever.