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The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:35 pm
by 00111010 01000100
So admiral janeway helps voyager return to earth early, thereby deleting herself from the space/time continuum and erasing the timeline in which she helps voyager get home earlier. Primary timeline restored.


Or....

The voyager crew and ship return home with all their memories and advanced technology intact, as if the alternate timeline still existed.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:04 pm
by T'Pau
:bangwall: That hurts my btain

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:09 pm
by Nutso
...I...can't...

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:57 pm
by 00111010 01000100
Nutso wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:09 pm...I...can't...
T'Pau wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:04 pm :bangwall: That hurts my btain
Temporal mechanics tend to hurt everyone’s brain. Especially when they break their own rules. Common sense be damned when you’re in a hurry to end a show.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:56 pm
by Captain Seafort
Trek time-travel follows the multiple-universe model, so Admiral Janeway's arrival in what she perceived as her own past caused a additional timeline to branch off from hers.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:37 pm
by T'Pau
Still a great moment when they bust through the Borg Orb... one of my favorites from the series.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:25 am
by McAvoy
Or that Admiral Janeway went back in time to save her favorite pet project, her favorite pet Vulcan and her favorite pet statue.

Borg Queen seemed to think that by destroying Voyager, Admiral Janeway wouldn't exist either. But that wouldn't be the same Admiral Janeway that she is meeting in the present. But a different Admiral Janeway she wouldnt meet because present Janeway wouldn't need to go in the future. So destroying Voyager now wouldn't prevent what Admiral Janeway is doing now.

Yeah even time travel confuses the Borg apparently.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:47 pm
by 00111010 01000100
T'Pau wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:37 pm Still a great moment when they bust through the Borg Orb... one of my favorites from the series.
It was a good scene! Luckily they didn’t incinerate themselves. Shields were down and their new ablative armor system was almost depleted as well. Destroying a ship from the inside while being inside yourself... better boost that SIF to max Tuvix! ;)

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:03 pm
by T'Pau
Tuvix... another great episode and in some ways, made for a better character overall!

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:09 pm
by 00111010 01000100
T'Pau wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:03 pm Tuvix... another great episode and in some ways, made for a better character overall!
I thought so too. They should’ve kept him somehow.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:14 pm
by 00111010 01000100
McAvoy wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:25 am Or that Admiral Janeway went back in time to save her favorite pet project, her favorite pet Vulcan and her favorite pet statue.
Lol. The needs of the many pet projects, outweigh the needs of the few pet projects...
Borg Queen seemed to think that by destroying Voyager, Admiral Janeway wouldn't exist either. But that wouldn't be the same Admiral Janeway that she is meeting in the present. But a different Admiral Janeway she wouldnt meet because present Janeway wouldn't need to go in the future. So destroying Voyager now wouldn't prevent what Admiral Janeway is doing now.

Yeah even time travel confuses the Borg apparently.
Borg equals one big brain, so temporal causality probably confuses them just as much as it does a group of individual smaller brains.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:21 pm
by 00111010 01000100
Captain Seafort wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:56 pm Trek time-travel follows the multiple-universe model, so Admiral Janeway's arrival in what she perceived as her own past caused a additional timeline to branch off from hers.
But would they remember it? Would the events of multiverses spill into one another like dividing streams from a main river. If so, Enterprise D Personal would recall all the events from the Enterprise C encounter, would remember sending Tasha into the past. They also wouldn’t speculate about what happened to the Enterprise C as they had direct account witnesses of the events surrounding the ships destruction.

Multiverse theory is a migraine wrapped in an Aneurysm, intensified by an mirror universe agonizer set on max.

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:44 pm
by T'Pau
Ow Ow Ow

Re: The Voyager Paradox

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:13 am
by 00111010 01000100
T'Pau wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:44 pmOw Ow Ow

It’s okay T’pau. We’re all here together, suffering with you on your journey!
Sorry. I know of the two T’Pau’s, been dying to drop the musical one at some point. 😁