Variable Geometry Nacelles

[Graham Kennedy]

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[Graham Kennedy]

The thread is now open for business again. Please let's not rehash the unpleasantness of before here.

[Bryan Moore]

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Okay, now, where did the theory come from that they were supposed to keep the fabric of space from ripping apart like in Force of Nature? Was this a fan thing? I can't find them, but I swear this comes up in a TV Guide somewhere.

[Teaos]

We know warp damages space and we know that the movement is new so it stands to reason that the reason. But as far as I know its not random.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Variable-geometry pylons were intended to correct the subspace damage spoken of in TNG: "Force of Nature". The concept of the variable-geometry pylons preventing damage to space was never explained, but was conceived and included as part of the premise for Star Trek: Voyager

[Bryan Moore]

Variable-geometry pylons were intended to correct the subspace damage spoken of in TNG: "Force of Nature". The concept of the variable-geometry pylons preventing damage to space was never explained, but was conceived and included as part of the premise for Star Trek: Voyager

Right, but where did this come from? When did this information get out? I swear it was pretty early on.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Variable-geometry pylons were intended to correct the subspace damage spoken of in TNG: "Force of Nature". The concept of the variable-geometry pylons preventing damage to space was never explained, but was conceived and included as part of the premise for Star Trek: Voyager

Right, but where did this come from? When did this information get out? I swear it was pretty early on.

I found it on Memory Alpha under their variable geometry pylon article.

[Bryan Moore]

Yeah I know it's floating around somewhere. I also remember reading this early on, possibly even before the series began. I just wish I knew where!

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Here are some opinions I found on the talk page

always thought that that the moving pylons allowed the Bussard collectors to be positioned where the saucer didn't impeded collection during sublight flight and that they allowed the nacelles to be placed for proper warp field creation for the Intrepid-class shape. But never have heard that mentioned. Then again, I haven't heard the prevention of subspace damage theory mentioned either; I must have missed it somehow

I just watched Force of Nature, which references a USS Intrepid (which presumably would have to be the Intrepid-class USS Intrepid, though could possibly be a completely different ship), and is the episode that introduces the warp-speed limit. If VGP is a response to this problem then VGP would have to only be implemented on later vessles of this class (like Voyager), or possibly as an upgrade

Note: VGP is Variable Geometry Pylons, since it's actually they pylon that moves, not the nacelle.

I found the last quote interesting. The Intrepid may have actually existed before the subspace damage thing started. Maybe Voyager is a sub-class or something.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

some more background info on "Force of Nature"

The production staff were generally disappointed with this episode. Jeri Taylor and writer Naren Shankar noted the difficulty of dramatizing environmental problems, and the danger of oversimplifying the issues. Shankar described the resulting episode as "not one of my finer moments". (ST:TNG Companion)

Deanna Troi only has a single line of dialogue in this episode