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Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:38 am
by SomosFuga
Teaos wrote:Considering it is a group of three and its called TRI-cobolt, we can even assume a tricobolt is three bits working together.
It is tricobalt torpedo, tricobalt device or what? Because if they say "device" then i'm ok with this theory but if the cannon says "torpedo" then should be a single torpedo and the world tricobalt could be the type of warhead like a nuke or plasma.

Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:55 am
by Tsukiyumi
Except that the images clearly show three (or more) separate bits to the "torpedo" (or device). Perhaps it's a cluster of smaller torpedoes that react together on impact.

Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:07 am
by SomosFuga
Ok, the images clearly show at least three separate bits but my question remains: in the dialogue do they say tricobalt torpedo, tricobalt device or what? because if they say "torpedo" then it should be a single thing but if they say "device" then could be pretty much anything

Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:14 am
by Lighthawk
SomosFuga wrote:Ok, the images clearly show at least three separate bits but my question remains: in the dialogue do they say tricobalt torpedo, tricobalt device or what? because if they say "torpedo" then it should be a single thing but if they say "device" then could be pretty much anything
I mean this in the nicest way, but I think you're nit picking. Torpedo, device, I don't think the exact wording is going to change that it is clearly a triple component weapon. For the sake of arguement though, it could be a torpedo and still be three seperate bits, the torpedo could be a single piece while in storage and even in the tubes, but once launched breaks into the three seperate pieces we see.

I can't actually say what the extact wording is though, sorry.

Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:15 pm
by Mikey
I think they did say "device," but I'm not positive.

Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:45 pm
by Nickswitz
They said "device" in VOY every time they mentioned it, never torpedo.

Re: Borg invasion

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:07 pm
by SomosFuga
Lighthawk wrote:The dominion would crush a single borg cube. Not only do they have a dedicated and genetically engineered race of warriors, but they have MASSIVE numbers. The only reason the combined might of the major powers of the alpha/beta quadrent even stood a chance was that that DS9 blockaded the only route to their space. The dominion is several times bigger than all the major and minor space powers we've come to know in trek except for the borg themselves.
I think you are right here, the dominion have massive numbers and very quickly replaceable troops and ships, plus they have some pretty large ships too.

The dominion energy weapons, transporters and even the jemhadar went through fed shields with no problem till they captured and reverse enginered 1 of their attack ships, similar effect might be expected for borg shielding, of course the borg probably will adapt way faster and without capturing a ship but still, the jemhadar have a window of opportunity to make heavy damage to the cube before that. I imagine a couple of those heavy battleships from ep Valiant, several cruisers and small attack ships by the dozens (at least) arround the cube firing and even ramming the cube (without effective shielding that would be messy) until the borg addapt, but by that point there are a few thousands of jemhadars aboard the cube and maybe borg drones aboard several jemhadar ships trying to figure out how they pass their shields, looking for weaknesses and/or assimilating as fast as they can.