Cardassian Ship Technology

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Or if there's no other way to destroy the ship than by manually detonated explosives or a phaser to the warp core - it's his ship, therefore it's his responsibility.
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Or if there's no other way to destroy the ship than by manually detonated explosives or a phaser to the warp core - it's his ship, therefore it's his responsibility.
I agree, it is his resposibility to care for or destroy his ship. Losing the ships captain, the person who is most likely the best of the crew is still never a good idea. If the need comes then its his resposibility to leave someone behind to destroy the ship. A captain is hard to replace, an avg crewman or marine, no so hard to replace.
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But what should you do if you see your ship destroyed. And the sensors show the ship destroyed. Than you basicly think that the ship was destroyed.
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He should have confirmed that the ship was destroyed beyond repair.
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An expanding debris field is usually a good sign.
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And a lack of one is a good sign to the other side of things.
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Exactly. You'd figure you'd pick one up OR the lack of one up on even shuttle sensors.
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But then this is SF we're talking about.
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Oh yeah. Damn, I forget about that sometimes. Common sense ain't all that common with those folks, huh? :mrgreen:
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Not for TNG, common sense was a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
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But what should you do if you see your ship destroyed. And the sensors show the ship destroyed. Than you basicly think that the ship was destroyed.
He didn't see the ship destroyed. That's exactly the problem. He just cheerfully assumed it was so.

Honestly, I believe in the last thread we had on this, we made an entire list of methods that Picard could have easily done to ensure the ship's destruction.
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He just cheerfully assumed it was so.
But what was his assumption based on.
Honestly, I believe in the last thread we had on this, we made an entire list of methods that Picard could have easily done to ensure the ship's destruction
It's not how could he have destroyed the ship, but why he thought the ship was destroyed.
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mlsnoopy wrote:It's not how could he have destroyed the ship, but why he thought the ship was destroyed.
He didn't . When relating the battle to the E-D's senior officers he described the Stargazer as "on fire, finished", but his final log entry read "We are forced to abandon our starship. May she find her way without us." The latter suggests that while the ship was badly damaged and rendered uninhabitable, she wasn't in serious danger of being destroyed, and not only did Picard make no effort to ensure that she was, he didn't consider it important. The man's an idiot.
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There's the rub. If he had assumed that the ship was (or would soon be) destroyed, the problem is a simple case of holding to an assumption without verification.
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