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ChakatBlackstar wrote:Well, we know Vulcan ships have those warp-rings so maybe the rec dec Enterprise was humanity's attemt to copy that at some point.

The operative word there is "maybe".

Hey, maybe if they do with TMP like they're doing with TOS they'll replace the original picture with the NX-01. Hopefully that won't be as big a deal as who shot first.

They already redid TMP. It was the first thing they ever went back to, actually. There was some suggestion that they might replace it with a pic of the NX-01, but it stayed as it was.

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Well, we know Vulcan ships have those warp-rings so maybe the rec dec Enterprise was humanity's attemt to copy that at some point.

Yet all the vessels in ENT have cylindrical nacelles. Redkneck boy even states that there more efficent than the ring.

Hey, maybe if they do with TMP like they're doing with TOS they'll replace the original picture with the NX-01. Hopefully that won't be as big a deal as who shot first.

It's a reboot dude, we'll be lucky if we get an actual classic Enterprise.

GrahamKennedy wrote:They already redid TMP. It was the first thing they ever went back to, actually. There was some suggestion that they might replace it with a pic of the NX-01, but it stayed as it was.

Too bad. We could've had our own version of who shot first. That would be fun

It's a reboot dude, we'll be lucky if we get an actual classic Enterprise.

I was talking the remastered thing, we're they're updating the special effects and what not. Example

Original Botany Bay:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... screen.jpg

Updated Botany Bay realistically weathered but faithfully following the lines of the original:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... stered.jpg

ChakatBlackstar wrote: Original Botany Bay:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... screen.jpg

Updated Botany Bay realistically weathered but faithfully following the lines of the original:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... stered.jpg

You know Bernd doesn't do hotlinks right? Neither image link worked.

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
I was talking the remastered thing, we're they're updating the special effects and what not. Example

Original Botany Bay:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... screen.jpg

Updated Botany Bay realistically weathered but faithfully following the lines of the original:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... stered.jpg

I'm pretty sure that their mandate only covers TOS and only because it looked horrible on HDTV.

Teaos wrote:And before then?

Honestly the Evil Vulcans were ok IMO, not great but I could have lived with it if it hadn't been for all the other points that have been made. By its self it would have been an interesting plot point. With the dozen or so other points... it shows the complete lack of caring about canon and the show of trek.

Actually, before then, too. The Vulcans always seemed to have a streak of arrogance running through them a light-year wide. Remember, they don't eliminate emotions. They try to suppress them.

So the Vulcans aren't perfect angels. I've known that since T'Pring set Spock and Kirk against each other. Ever since Sarek and Spock drifted apart.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Teaos wrote:And before then?

Honestly the Evil Vulcans were ok IMO, not great but I could have lived with it if it hadn't been for all the other points that have been made. By its self it would have been an interesting plot point. With the dozen or so other points... it shows the complete lack of caring about canon and the show of trek.

Actually, before then, too. The Vulcans always seemed to have a streak of arrogance running through them a light-year wide. Remember, they don't eliminate emotions. They try to suppress them.

So the Vulcans aren't perfect angels. I've known that since T'Pring set Spock and Kirk against each other. Ever since Sarek and Spock drifted apart.

Not to mention Captain Solok, the racist Vulcan on DS9.

me,myself and I wrote:

ChakatBlackstar wrote: Original Botany Bay:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... screen.jpg

Updated Botany Bay realistically weathered but faithfully following the lines of the original:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... stered.jpg

You know Bernd doesn't do hotlinks right? Neither image link worked.

huh...go figure

ChakatBlackstar wrote:

me,myself and I wrote:

ChakatBlackstar wrote: Original Botany Bay:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... screen.jpg

Updated Botany Bay realistically weathered but faithfully following the lines of the original:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schem ... stered.jpg

You know Bernd doesn't do hotlinks right? Neither image link worked.

huh...go figure

If he did his bandwidth would go through the roof.

KuvahMagh wrote:

ChakatBlackstar wrote: huh...go figure

If he did his bandwidth would go through the roof.

Indeed. In fact, if you click the link he more-or-less says that.

Tsukiyumi wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote: Not to mention Captain Solok, the racist Vulcan on DS9.

And the Vulcan serial killer who killed people because... they smiled, right? He was the one Ezri caught.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
And the Vulcan serial killer who killed people because... they smiled, right? He was the one Ezri caught.

Not quite, he appeared to have PTSD or the Vulcan equivilant. Considering that most sufferers don't turn into homocidal maniacs.

IIRC, it was a more Freudian childhood trauma that set him off.

Mikey wrote:IIRC, it was a more Freudian childhood trauma that set him off.

Not quite, he had a minor pre-existing condition and was pyschologicaly devestated with the loss of his friends and co-workers.

I dont get how Vulcans can have friends with out emotion...