Federation and Borg

[JudgeKing]

The Caeliar (if novels can be included)

[Sionnach Glic]

We're going purely on canon here.

[Mikey]

I'd guess many colonies are governed as either commonwealths or protectorates - in time, a colony can eventually acheive independent status: witness the Mariposa colony of TNG. The UFP seemed to have completely forgotten that they were there.

[Lt. Staplic]

I think that's more a mark of incompotence on Starfleets part, then a statement about colonial governing...both colonies were circling the drain, so to speak, and shouldn't have been released from the protectorate, especilly the one where they just cloned themselves.

[Mikey]

Just saying that it happens, is all.

[Lt. Staplic]

okay, I wasn't sure.

[shran]

About the point of the ancient civilizastions, i'd say the Dominion are pretty old, as well as the T'kon, the Varro and the progenitors. i'd consider them to be old. And the guys that built the guardian of forever.

[Mikey]

And except for the Dominion, they're gone. And, do we have evidence of the age of the Dominion?

[Captain Seafort]

And except for the Dominion, they're gone. And, do we have evidence of the age of the Dominion?

2,000 years, according to Weyoun in "To the Death" and the female Founder in "What You Leave Behind". I.e. about twice as old as the Borg.

[Graham Kennedy]

I suspect colony status depends on how it is founded. If a bunch of people just get a ship and take off on their own and found a colony, I'd think it would be an independent body. But if it's founded as an official effort by the Federation, with government help - we've seen the E-D planting colonies or visiting them - then it would be a protectorate or something.

[Sionnach Glic]

That'd make sense. Presumably it needs to be an authorised attempt by the UFP to be recognised as a colony.

[Mark]

Agreed. And then said independant colonly could either go their own way, or after establishing themselves and their own government, petition the UFP for membership, I would assume.

[Lt. Staplic]

this is like the debate from the E-nil vs NS-01 thread.

[Mark]

How do you figure?

[Lt. Staplic]

here we're debating a colonies status as to membership, over there we're debating weather colonies are counted as members when we hear the 150 member worlds number.