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Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:38 pm
by Sionnach Glic
That seems the likely answer, then.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:12 am
by Teaos
Putting locks on replicators holds signifigant risks. They can be over come. It is much easier to just not let people use them.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:00 am
by Captain Seafort
Teaos wrote:Putting locks on replicators holds signifigant risks. They can be over come. It is much easier to just not let people use them.
Easier, yes, however its disproportionate to bad replicators completely simply to prevent one or two thugs replicating weapons. In any event, it'd probably be easier for them to grab a random household item to use as a weapon rather than replicating one, especially as you'd need to get your hands on a pattern before you could do anything. There'd be a black market in such patterns, but they'd probably be pretty difficult to find.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:08 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Exactly. What would it be easier to do if you wanted to murder someone?
Bypass the security systems, obtain replicator patterns to a phaser and create it without all this being discovered.
OR
Simply replicate a kitchen knife.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:38 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Rochey wrote:...Simply replicate a kitchen knife.
Or a crowbar. :twisted:

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:51 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Or that, yes.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:52 pm
by Mark
Tsukiyumi wrote:
Rochey wrote:...Simply replicate a kitchen knife.
Or a crowbar. :twisted:
Or an axe to throw at them (reference thread about man throwing an axe)

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:43 pm
by stitch626
:laughroll:

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:33 am
by Mark
:happydevil:

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:26 am
by Tsukiyumi
"Computer, axe!"

"Please specify type."

"Dammit!"

"Type not on file."

"Dammit!"

:)

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:40 pm
by Teaos
Rochey wrote:Exactly. What would it be easier to do if you wanted to murder someone?
Bypass the security systems, obtain replicator patterns to a phaser and create it without all this being discovered.
OR
Simply replicate a kitchen knife.
Replicators could make things a little more dangerous than a kitchen knife.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:44 pm
by Mikey
Consider Japanese-occupied medieval Okinawa. Weapons were banned; so the Okinawans developed devastating combat forms using farm implements. The now-famous nunchaku is simply a rice flail; tonfa (t-sticks) are threshing tools; etc. The Swiss, English, et. al. developed devastating medieval weapons by tying farm tools to long sticks - the bill-hook, glaive, guisarme, Lochaber axe, bec de corbin, etc.

In other words, unless you put the entire population into concentration camps, you have to let them produce - maybe even produce FOR the occupiers. If they are doing that, they will be able to find a weapon, no matter what you ban.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:06 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Replicators could make things a little more dangerous than a kitchen knife.
Probably. And that illustrates my point nicely.

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:36 pm
by Reliant121
Mikey wrote:Consider Japanese-occupied medieval Okinawa. Weapons were banned; so the Okinawans developed devastating combat forms using farm implements. The now-famous nunchaku is simply a rice flail; tonfa (t-sticks) are threshing tools; etc. The Swiss, English, et. al. developed devastating medieval weapons by tying farm tools to long sticks - the bill-hook, glaive, guisarme, Lochaber axe, bec de corbin, etc.

In other words, unless you put the entire population into concentration camps, you have to let them produce - maybe even produce FOR the occupiers. If they are doing that, they will be able to find a weapon, no matter what you ban.
I imagine a simple torch could be amplified in power and output to form an energy weapon?

Re: Noncombatants in the Dominion War

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:48 pm
by Mark
With a replicator, you COULD do serious damage even if banning weapons. Replicate some bleach and ammonia seperately, then mix them together. Bad stuff.