Laser stats or The ENT Stats

[Reliant121]

I suppose we could alter it to a older Intrepid class. But i'd suggest having an uprated core. warp 1-2 isnt exactly...helpful.

[Sonic Glitch]

But i'd suggest having an uprated core. warp 1-2 isnt exactly...helpful.

Yea, in that case it would be more like "months and years spent watching the stars pass by" I kinda like the idea of an Intrepid or other class...they're different. And probably bore the brunt of the fighting as they were more numerous.
The way I see the Romulan War fought is: fleets centered around an NX Ship (maybe 2), with refitted Intrepids and Neptunes forming the backbone. Until they're all replaced (naturally) with the Warp 7 ships.

[Reliant121]

I would also imagine they have plasma based weaponry. Not that i'm biased at all

[stitch626]

Wow, two days away, and this happens.
I am not against plasma weapons. And I too like the idea of being on a slightly older ship. They looked nice too.

[Reliant121]

Plasma weapons, if i remember correctly, are quite weak. And its a fairly stable compromise between the Phase cannon and the Laser.

[Monroe]

They had a choice as well, they could've told the studio to shove it up their collective rears, but they didn't. We shouldn't try and fix the mistakes that were made? Daystrom itself isn't canon, theres no such thing as the Brotherhood, the possibility of a Tholian in Star Fleet is incredibly unlikely.

Uh that's not how movie / TV studiots work. Studios > All. If they told the studio to shove it they'd be fired and have a hard time finding a new job. Studio owns the rights anyway.
Far as the other stuff that's stretching Canon and developing new characters that don't breach canon but work inside of it.

Personally I kind of like the NX since its familiar but I'd be willing to go with the Neptune.

[Aaron]

As a footnote to my nuke suggestion: ship to ship nukes should be neutron bomb type warheads, as there's no atmosphere to generate a blast effect all the damage would come from hard rads. The ship can have a few normal nukes for use against a planetary target.

[Mikey]

Sorry, I've been away a bit and glossed over the last couple of pages, so I'll abide with whatever deomcratically decided deal comes out of this. I just wanted to comment on one thing which almost made me fall out of my chair: Blackstar saying we have to go with an arbitrary canon because it wouldn't be 'Trek if we didn't. Isn't this the same person who opened our original RPG with a non-existent (in canon) interdimensional sentient six-limbed vertebrate? I guess keeping it a "Star Trek" RPG didn't matter so much then.

[kostmayer]

Why was everything scheduled for Tuesday - do they still have Bank Holidays in the future.

[Sonic Glitch]

It's a running gag from ST Generations. The E-B was so underprepared because everything (the tractor beam, photon torpedoes, medical staff) wasn't supposed to arrive/be installed until "Tuesday."

[Mikey]

In the final analysis, who cares, really? I mean, whether or not we have "phase cannon" or "plasma cannon" or "lasers," the point of this is to be an RPG, not a wargame. The fact is that B&B should never have created "phase pistols" and the like; but that really doesn't affect what we're trying to do here, does it?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Sorry, I've been away a bit and glossed over the last couple of pages, so I'll abide with whatever deomcratically decided deal comes out of this. I just wanted to comment on one thing which almost made me fall out of my chair: Blackstar saying we have to go with an arbitrary canon because it wouldn't be 'Trek if we didn't. Isn't this the same person who opened our original RPG with a non-existent (in canon) interdimensional sentient six-limbed vertebrate? I guess keeping it a "Star Trek" RPG didn't matter so much then.

That was different. I wasn't altering canon, I was adding a non-canon element. They are trying to change a canon element to a non-canon element.

And like you said in your next post it shouldn't make a difference, in which case the logical choice would be canon.

Or we could create an ENT RP and a seperate fake ENT era RP.

[Teaos]

The question then is are you making a ENT RP or a ENT era RP where you just use ENT as building blocks.

Although I doubt I'll join this one the latter seems the better option to me since so many people have a problem with the way ENT was done. This gives you a chance to do it right.

[Mikey]

That was different. I wasn't altering canon, I was adding a non-canon element. They are trying to change a canon element to a non-canon element.

Fairly arbitrary distinction.

But yes, I do still hold to the idea that what we're discussing are merely the set pieces.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

That was different. I wasn't altering canon, I was adding a non-canon element. They are trying to change a canon element to a non-canon element.

Fairly arbitrary distinction.

Not in my line of study. In computer terms, I added on to a program(modding), while they are altering the core program to create a cheap rip-off.