Re: Brexit
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:33 pm
No more so than it would be possible for Missouri to leave NAFTA.Vic wrote:Would it be possible for England to exit but not the rest of the UK?
No more so than it would be possible for Missouri to leave NAFTA.Vic wrote:Would it be possible for England to exit but not the rest of the UK?
Show me.Captain Seafort wrote:No more so than it would be possible for Missouri to leave NAFTA.Vic wrote:Would it be possible for England to exit but not the rest of the UK?
Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have expected you to get that little joke. I understand full well the difference between England and the UK; Missouri is known by the nickname "the Show Me State," for various folkloric (and probably apocryphal) reasons. One legend has it that a Congressman Vandiver of Missouri, at a naval banquet around the turn of the 20th century, said in a speech that "I am from Missouri... you have got to show me." A less-flattering tale is that Missouri miners, imported to cover the workload of striking laborers at a Colorado mine, weren't quite catching on to their instructions, whereupon one supervisor told another, "Those men are from Missouri - you have to show them."Captain Seafort wrote:"England" is neither a sovereign state, nor a member of the EU, no more so than "Missouri" is a sovereign state (using the term as understood in international politics) or a member of NAFTA. The relevant members of the respective bodies are the United Kingdom and the United States, ergo all matters and decisions arising from membership of the supranational body apply equally to all parts of the member states.
I think the overwhelming majority did not vote with an economic perspective, the EU is far more emotive than simple money can convey. Those I know who did vote Leave (I did not) mainly voted along the lines of returning total governance of our law to Parliament rather than the EU parliament. Just as there are instances when states are required to comply with Federal law in the US, the EU has been increasingly trying to exert the will of EU law on it's members. Some nations do not consider this particularly an issue (Germany comes to mind) largely because it's populace are vested in the ever closer union ideal of the EU itself.Bryan Moore wrote:I am admittedly a person whose political leanings tend to follow a conservative economic perspective... so can someone please tell me, because my apparently feeble mind cannot comprehend... what exactly does Britain expect to gain, economically, from the Brexit? Not that I'd ever doubt a country whose greatest current export is the cast of Game of Thrones, but I've not heard a great argument that really convinces me why this is seen by the conservatives as a smart economic move.