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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:42 pm
by Mikey
There is evidence, however, of the Breen interacting (via piracy, slaving, trade) with other civilizations - with whom, in turn, the Federation interacted. I still think it more likely that the energy-dampening weapon was a recent wartime development.

I agree with Peabody - the design is, well, alien in its color variations, layout, and asymmetrical design; rather the one-off's which are just cosmetically different that we've seen so often.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:46 am
by Teaos
I think the shape and colour may have something to do with the organic hull. Which is a interesting feature since we know of almost no one who uses organic hulls.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:35 am
by DarkOmen
Rochey wrote: And Omen, that is one ugly ship :| .
HEY!! i didnt make it, i show it how it is :P

blame the makers of ST

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:39 am
by Mikey
Teaos wrote:I think the shape and colour may have something to do with the organic hull. Which is a interesting feature since we know of almost no one who uses organic hulls.
VERY interesting since we have been led to believe (Weyoun's comments aside) that the Breen's preferred environment is not one that's conducive to most other life...

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:48 am
by Teaos
Well remember that at very cold temps that metal is rather weak. Maybe organics are the only way to deal with it.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:14 am
by Mikey
Probably true - which opens the possibility of a whole organics-based tech, wholly alien to what the Federation knows.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:32 am
by Teaos
One of the only other times we see Organic ships is 8472 which are insanely powerful so it seems as if it is just as good if not better than metal.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:40 am
by Bryan Moore
I always think of House Orodos from the Dune video games in relation to the Breen and their Frigate. Anyone get me?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:06 pm
by Sionnach Glic
One of the only other times we see Organic ships is 8472 which are insanely powerful so it seems as if it is just as good if not better than metal.
These guys live in a dimension filled with water, they're hardly the best yardstick to judge things by.

By their very definition, organic ships will always be inferior to mechanical ship.

And do we have actual canon evidence that their ships are organic?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:10 pm
by Granitehewer
Tuvok,said that the breen use organic components
nothing else, so assuming hulls etc is not necessarily so

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:20 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Did he actually state that they only used organic components, and organic components only. Or did he just state 'they use organic components'?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:21 pm
by Granitehewer
just the later, so might not mean organic,exclusively

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:23 pm
by Sionnach Glic
It's possible he meant 'organic components' in the sense that they use something like the Bio-neural packs Voyager used.
That makes the most sense.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:41 pm
by Mikey
It is still nice in my opinion to think of a more encompassing organic component - it adds to the "alien-ness" of the Breen.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:29 pm
by Captain Seafort
If they're using organic hulls then we can chalk up yet another stupid species - there's a good reason we use metal or ceramic armour to protect organic people, and that's because organic material is far weaker.