Variable Geometry Nacelles

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:47 pm

Well, we know that there WAS subspace "pollution" being done, but I don't recall seeing that the Intrepid's variable geometry was in response to that or not. If it were, we would have seen it in use more than a handful of times on the show.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:54 pm

I think the assertion that the variable nacelles reduce polution came from an interview wth one of the producers, rather than in the show.

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:29 pm

Ah. So it's a non-canon claim then, and even if true, we have no explanation of why Voyager gave up on the concept after one or two uses.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:34 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:I think the assertion that the variable nacelles reduce polution came from an interview wth one of the producers, rather than in the show.

So? It's a better reason than 'pointless'.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:43 pm

For once I'm not arguing with you

- I was simply responding to Mikey's comment that he wasn't sure where the "prevents subspace pollution" explanation came from.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:45 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:For once I'm not arguing with you - I was simply responding to Mikey's comment that he wasn't sure where the "prevents subspace pollution" explanation came from.

What? What have you done with the real Seafort? XD

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:46 pm

Thank you. The fact remains, though, that if there was a stated necessity for the variable-geometry nacelles, there should be NO reason why there were used so rarely.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:51 pm

Mikey wrote:Thank you. The fact remains, though, that if there was a stated necessity for the variable-geometry nacelles, there should be NO reason why there were used so rarely.

They were used every time they went to warp. What're you talking about?

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:01 pm

I mean, if they were so important, why was no mention ever made? Surely, such an innovation should get some talk time?

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:17 pm

Mikey wrote:I mean, if they were so important, why was no mention ever made? Surely, such an innovation should get some talk time?

This really annoys me. Why must every little thing have a mention? Even one throw away comment? It's not important, that's why it doesn't get any talk time. Toilets - they're not important, they don't get talk time. It doesn't advance the plot (I use that term loosely for Voyager

), it doesn't help characters develop, it doesn't entertain, it doesn't have any message. It does nothing. It's there and the most sensible reason is that it helped going to warp. It doesn't need a mention. At all.

Captain Picard's Hair · Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:02 pm

Thorin wrote:
Mikey wrote:I mean, if they were so important, why was no mention ever made? Surely, such an innovation should get some talk time?
This really annoys me. Why must every little thing have a mention? Even one throw away comment?

Well, so that we don't have to have this thread and tear our hair out trying to make some sense out of this, that's why.

Post by **Teaos** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:09 pm

I stick by my idea for it dispersing radiation that damages subspace. This spreads it out by elongating the Z axis.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:15 pm

Captain Picard's Hair wrote:
Thorin wrote:
Mikey wrote:I mean, if they were so important, why was no mention ever made? Surely, such an innovation should get some talk time?
This really annoys me. Why must every little thing have a mention? Even one throw away comment?
Well, so that we don't have to have this thread and tear our hair out trying to make some sense out of this, that's why.

I understand asking what they're for. But saying they're pointless and then saying every little detail about all aspects of life, the future, the past, everything that has ever existed ever has to be mentioned on show (even in passing) is just absurd. If it's not going to help 'enhance' the show (whether by advancing the plot, developing characters, etc), then it doesn't need to be there. By all means, discuss what it could be, why its there - but don't ask them to mention everything!

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:25 pm

There's also the state Star Wars is in these days to consider - an obsession with every single detail of the universe, to the extent that it sometimes seems as if the EU has lost track of the fundamental aim of providing interesting stories in its desire to explaining every last event, and every minor character in excruciating detail, often contradicting itself in the process.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:30 am

Captain Seafort wrote:There's also the state Star Wars is in these days to consider - an obsession with every single detail of the universe, to the extent that it sometimes seems as if the EU has lost track of the fundamental aim of providing interesting stories in its desire to explaining every last event, and every minor character in excruciating detail, often contradicting itself in the process.

Quote for truth. There's info... and then there's info that drowns the story. SW has hit that.