Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World

[SolkaTruesilver]

Don't feel bad. This movie just doesn't appeal to most of us.

I feel bad to misreading the argument made

But yhea, I get that some people just don't feel called by it. I really liked the Video-game culture reference. Hell, you could (and TvTropes has done) a Boss analysis of the antagonists Scott Pilgrim has to fight. Each of the bad guys represent a classic Boss Archetype.

Ex: Mathew Patel = Warm-up Boss
Lucas Lee = Wake-up Call Boss
Todd = That One Boss

[Tyyr]

The problem is that a lot of people want more than video game references to make a good movie. There's nothing wrong with them but they need to be part of something bigger.

[Reliant121]

For me its simply not that related to me. I mean, I'm young enough that even KOTOR is old for me. I simply won't get it much. I simply see nerdy kid kicking collective butt.

[SolkaTruesilver]

It's the cluttering of small elements that made the movie so great. Like the message, the music, the jokes, the video-game reference, the campy acting, the characters, the chinese girlfriend, the gay roomate, the character development, etc..

And the pacing. The movie doesn't have any overly-long moment that you feel is drawing out for no good reason (again, YMMV), it actually progress VERY QUICKLY. It hit the mark perfectly for me, which is why I am praising it that much.

It's gonna be a cult classic for me, and I can't wait to watch it again. Let's just say that I was 100% sold when Mattew Patel started singing Bollywood-style. That was both soooo weird, yet "in character" for him...

[Mikey]

As Tyyr said, all those moments, the nostalgic references, make great dressing - but they can't substitute for actual content, nor can they mitigate a hackneyed plot or characterizations.

[SolkaTruesilver]

I just don't understand what Wayne's World, for example, had that Scott Pilgrim doesn't.

[Mikey]

I just don't understand what Wayne's World, for example, had that Scott Pilgrim doesn't.

Not much, IMO.

[IanKennedy]

I just don't understand what Wayne's World, for example, had that Scott Pilgrim doesn't.

Charm, for a start. Wayne was charming in a quirky sort of way. You could see how it made Cassandra fall for him. Scott Pilgrim was just wet, I can't see what Ramona saw in him. She didn't seem to see much in him from they way she acted. She seems to go out with him because she had nothing better to do. Right through until the end of the film Scott was still a wet little kid.

[SolkaTruesilver]

I just don't understand what Wayne's World, for example, had that Scott Pilgrim doesn't.

Charm, for a start. Wayne was charming in a quirky sort of way. You could see how it made Cassandra fall for him. Scott Pilgrim was just wet, I can't see what Ramona saw in him. She didn't seem to see much in him from they way she acted. She seems to go out with him because she had nothing better to do. Right through until the end of the film Scott was still a wet little kid.

However, she knew that Scott could have simply turned away after the first evil ex, and simply walk of and go back with Knives. (All right, she didn't knew about Knives at the time)

But he didn't. He sticked with it and showed her what he was ready to risk (his life?) to date her and to deserve her. Where Wayne just acted goofy and learned to speak cantonese.

Cassandra falling for Wayne is about as shallowy explained as Ramona going to Scott, IMHO. At least, Ramona would appreciate Scott's niceness, after having dated Gideon. (Note: emotions involved much more explained in the comics)

[Tyyr]

(Note: emotions involved much more explained in the comics)

I hear this said a lot about many movies with other source material. It doesn't fly. Sorry, never does. The movie has to stand on its own or not at all.

[SolkaTruesilver]

(Note: emotions involved much more explained in the comics)

I hear this said a lot about many movies with other source material. It doesn't fly. Sorry, never does. The movie has to stand on its own or not at all.

Except that, you know, if the comic is the original medium, which they had to condense into the movie.

IMHO, the movie stands on it's own. It's just more streamlined if you read the comic. The story isn't exactly the same between the two, as there have been adaptation of stuff that weren't originally in the comic, since the movie medium is much better at, let's say, music and flashy combats.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

I just don't understand what Wayne's World, for example, had that Scott Pilgrim doesn't.

I can't speak for what SP didn't have, but for me, Wayne's World had a bit of charm, could poke fun at itself, had a great soundtrack and was able to successfully expand an SNL skit and make Wayne and Garth three-dimensional characters.

[Tyyr]

Except that, you know, if the comic is the original medium, which they had to condense into the movie.

Except that, you know, they don't pass out copies of the comic before the movie and give you a few hours to read it before hand.

[Captain Seafort]

Except that, you know, if the comic is the original medium, which they had to condense into the movie.

To further Tyyr's point, I assume this means that the troops of the film Starship Troopers demonstrated full-coverage body armour, sound tactics and an absolute commitment to the principle of "no man left behind"?

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

A movie must stand or fall on its own merits. I have little desire to have to go to supplementary material to enjoy something.