Yes, those are slices of Sternbach's blueprints.LaughingCheese wrote:What are those? Did Bernd make them or are they from the Enterprise D Blueprints by Rick Sternbach? I would guess the latter?
What is ten forward?
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Ohh ok, I thought they looked way more detailed than Whitley's...Lazar wrote:Yes, those are slices of Sternbach's blueprints.LaughingCheese wrote:What are those? Did Bernd make them or are they from the Enterprise D Blueprints by Rick Sternbach? I would guess the latter?
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Can't argue that.OKkkkkk, still ridiculous.
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So, IF one was going to model the E-D, which blueprints would you use?
Whitley's or Sternbachs?
Just sayin'......
Whitley's or Sternbachs?
Just sayin'......
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I would say Sternbach's. Sternbach's blueprints, unlike Whitefire's, are consistent with the Ten Forward set, the post-season 3 studio model (and, by extension, the Nebula), and Generations (showing the 2-story stellar cartography lab). Whitefire's are based on the obsolete studio model, and they were made at a time when we knew less about the ship's internal configuration.
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Lazar wrote:I would say Sternbach's. Sternbach's blueprints, unlike Whitefire's, are consistent with the Ten Forward set, the post-season 3 studio model (and, by extension, the Nebula), and Generations (showing the 2-story stellar cartography lab). Whitefire's are based on the obsolete studio model, and they were made at a time when we knew less about the ship's internal configuration.
Ah, I was afraid you'd say that.
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I dunno, I always thought it was kind of a fun little detail.LaughingCheese wrote:OKkkkkk, still ridiculous.
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Weelll, honestly I think the Whitefires ones are much more fun to watch at and I do like that there are quite a few nice ideas paying homage to the fact that - let's be honest - this ship isn't a battleship but a deep space, long term exploration ship.LaughingCheese wrote:So, IF one was going to model the E-D, which blueprints would you use?
Whitley's or Sternbachs?
Just sayin'......
As to which ones are more accurate how about a different approach? The studio model changed between season 2 and 3 right?
Well I always held to be true that most of the saucer is highly adaptable and I see no reason why the internal setup couldn't also have changed over time. For example you have a huge theatre in Withefires blueprints. Once the use of the holodecks became more frequent and accepted those theatres were changed to science labs etc. The same could be true for the huge hydroponic gardens which also became less and less used due to replicators and holodecks and were gradually converted to more usefull areas.
Since one could consider the changed studio model to accomodate ten forward canon I see no reason why the E-D had a major overhaul between season 2 and 3 with changes to the internal setup.
Why is that? Is an intelligent species which doesn't happen to breath the excat oxygen-nitrogen mixture that alien? Thats the reason I quite liked the Benzites for instance and I find it a shame that they lost their nice little breather during DS9.LaughingCheese wrote:OKkkkkk, still ridiculous.
To be honest the only difference between humans and aliens in star trek seems that "we are the borg, vulcans, datas etc having not your puny human emotions....). I quite enjoy species living in a different medium.
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The problem is that you are trying to support a long range starship. The more forms of environment you try to support the more trouble you will have. It is better just to have that life form have a ship of its own.Why is that? Is an intelligent species which doesn't happen to breath the excat oxygen-nitrogen mixture that alien? Thats the reason I quite liked the Benzites for instance and I find it a shame that they lost their nice little breather during DS9.
To be honest the only difference between humans and aliens in star trek seems that "we are the borg, vulcans, datas etc having not your puny human emotions....). I quite enjoy species living in a different medium.
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I like that idea, and it is the more logical approach, but I can see the PC types crying discrimination. They do it in RL all the time, regardless of how stupid their demands are.Deepcrush wrote:...It is better just to have that life form have a ship of its own.
Take me, for example. I wanted to be a Marine; should they implement an Armored Wheelchair Corps just so I can serve?
Short answer: No.
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Got that, you'd be perfect for the APCs. You won't bitch about sitting all day.
But to be real, you're right. You cant just bleed your heart. Besides, discrimination in which we build you a whole ship all to yourself. Thats not a bad thing IMO. Even the Vulcan's have ships with ONLY Vulcans serving on them.
But to be real, you're right. You cant just bleed your heart. Besides, discrimination in which we build you a whole ship all to yourself. Thats not a bad thing IMO. Even the Vulcan's have ships with ONLY Vulcans serving on them.
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I'd prefer a Dreadnought, but an APC or MBT would work.Deepcrush wrote:Got that, you'd be perfect for the APCs. You won't bitch about sitting all day...
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To run MBT, you'd have to be pretty damn short. They got picky about that kinda thing.Tsukiyumi wrote:I'd prefer a Dreadnought, but an APC or MBT would work.
Say what now?I wanted to join the MAGTF anyways.
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What's the height limit?Deepcrush wrote:To run MBT, you'd have to be pretty damn short. They got picky about that kinda thing.Tsukiyumi wrote:I'd prefer a Dreadnought, but an APC or MBT would work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGTFDeepcrush wrote:Say what now?I wanted to join the MAGTF anyways.
Specifically, I wanted to fly planes for the Corps.
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