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Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:57 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Fair point. Archer would have to be pretty old if he was alive at that point.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:22 pm
by Monroe
You still call them Admirals / Generals after they retire though.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:16 pm
by Bryan Moore
GrahamKennedy wrote:The mention of "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" indicates that at least SOME version of Ent is part of this timeline.
This would make Admiral Archer, what, about 140?

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:29 pm
by Monroe
Bryan Moore wrote:
GrahamKennedy wrote:The mention of "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" indicates that at least SOME version of Ent is part of this timeline.
This would make Admiral Archer, what, about 140?
Is that really too far fetched 250 or so years into the future?

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:32 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Monroe wrote:
Bryan Moore wrote:
GrahamKennedy wrote:The mention of "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" indicates that at least SOME version of Ent is part of this timeline.
This would make Admiral Archer, what, about 140?
Is that really too far fetched 250 or so years into the future?
I don't think so. Some people live well over 100 in modern times.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:32 pm
by thelordharry
How old was Bones in Encounter At Farpoint?

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:41 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I could buy him living to 140 alright. But still an acting admiral? I doubt it.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:42 pm
by Lazar
He was 137.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:16 am
by IanKennedy
Yup, he was 137 and he was fed up with people being surprised at him living that long. This kinda suggests it's not that regular a thing to live to 137 at that time, which is 90+ years after this timeline.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:18 am
by Lazar
By the 2250s, Archer could have had a son who made it to admiral and liked beagles. :P

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:34 am
by CaptainQuantum
Age is not a problem. The UN projects that by 2300 (yes, they have thought this far ahead) the average life expectancy in the first world will be around 106. Currently it is 75-80. So living to 140 will be no more remarkable than someone living to 110 now. Rare but not impossible.

We can safely assume that Archer had several beagles over his lifetime, so the beagle in question wasn't Porthos.

The question you have to ask is what was Scotty thinking? Weren't there lab mice (or lab beagles) to test his new transporter techniques on? Even an ensign's hamster or lieutenant's shitzsu would be better choices than an admiral's beagle.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:44 am
by CaptainQuantum
Monroe wrote:ENT is the only series that's still canon 100% :D
Least they kept the best right?
As one of the only posters on this forum who actually enjoyed ENT, I feel compelled to say:

"Who's the preferred time line now, biatch?!!"

:)

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:13 am
by Captain Seafort
CaptainQuantum wrote:
Monroe wrote:ENT is the only series that's still canon 100% :D
Least they kept the best right?
As one of the only posters on this forum who actually enjoyed ENT, I feel compelled to say:

"Who's the preferred time line now, biatch?!!"

:)
As I said above, I'm not sure if Enterprise is canon in this timeline, Archer or no Archer. There had already been significant changes even before Nero showed up.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:32 am
by Teaos
Just from the look and feel of it I'd say no, and as Seafort said there are differnces even before Nero showed up.

Re: You know what this means...

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:50 am
by Sionnach Glic
Exactly. As I pointed out earlier, all we know is that there was an admiral named Archer who owned a pet bagle. Aside from that, anything could have happened.