Yeah, sorry if that was late in due but I've been off line for a few days...Captain Seafort wrote:Troops =/= stormies. The bunch on Tatooine were sandtrooper specialists, not the 501st, although they were from the Devastator.Deepcrush wrote:As to the Stormtroopers. Who said they were Vader's own? Are we saying that the Empire didn't have troops of any kind on this world?
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There used to be no Jedi uniform, Seafort, until the prequels retconned Obi-Wan's desert wear into one.Cpl Kendall wrote:There was no Jedi uniform huh? Then how come every bloody Jedi we see in the PT was wearing a variation of the exact same set of robes? A uniform doesn't have to be a grey tunic and jack boots you know.Deepcrush wrote:This whole thing just seems silly. There was no Jedi Uniform. They wore whatever the hell they wanted to at the time. Saying that someone should have been caught for wearing brown and tan colors on a planet that was brown and tan...
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There was no Jedi uniform huh? Then how come every bloody Jedi we see in the PT was wearing a variation of the exact same set of robes? A uniform doesn't have to be a grey tunic and jack boots you know.
The whole point of a uniform is to be uniform. Since none of the Jedi dressed in such form, there is no uniform. They may have a dress code, but that's still different.
Someone needs a nap.This is exactly the reason why I check out of a thread when you show up. If I wanted to see this kind of s**t I would spend more time on SDN, nice to see that you learned squat from your ban.
The 501st would most likely be held back until they have a battle they feel is worth sending them in. Patrol duties would most likely be an insult.I recall reading somewhere that they were members of the 501st, a check of Wookiepedia reveals nothing however. So it seems your correct.
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Concerning Jedi uniforms, although not all Jedi dress exactly alike, they do all wear similar types of boots, pants, and tunics.
And this is the StarWars Wikia entry on Jedi clothing:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_apparel
The first description reads as follows:
You couln't wear anytype of pants, or boots, or even tunic, you needed to wear something basic and utilitarian.
And this is the StarWars Wikia entry on Jedi clothing:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_apparel
The first description reads as follows:
So, although it wasn't a specific set of clothing, say like the army, it could be compared to a "dress-code", like Deepcrush said, although a restrictive one.Jedi apparel was the term given to the attire of members of both the Old and New Jedi Orders. Traditionally, Jedi wore clothes that befitted their monastic lifestyle, but variations on the theme were common, particularly after the rebirth of the Order after the Galactic Civil War. The attire usually was made in shades of brown or sometimes black, with a utility belt for various purposes, but also as a place on which to clip a lightsaber. Boots, loose-fitting pants and a cloak typically accompanied the garment.
You couln't wear anytype of pants, or boots, or even tunic, you needed to wear something basic and utilitarian.
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I don't think he meant anything personal by it. He did have a good point for his side of the argument.Cpl Kendall wrote:
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Yes and I addressed those, I'm not going to discard his points because of his attitude. I do however often just leave when he shows up because I know where the thread is going to go even if him and I never debate in it.Monroe wrote:
I don't think he meant anything personal by it. He did have a good point for his side of the argument.
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Praeothmin wrote:Concerning Jedi uniforms, although not all Jedi dress exactly alike, they do all wear similar types of boots, pants, and tunics.
And this is the StarWars Wikia entry on Jedi clothing:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_apparel
The first description reads as follows:So, although it wasn't a specific set of clothing, say like the army, it could be compared to a "dress-code", like Deepcrush said, although a restrictive one.Jedi apparel was the term given to the attire of members of both the Old and New Jedi Orders. Traditionally, Jedi wore clothes that befitted their monastic lifestyle, but variations on the theme were common, particularly after the rebirth of the Order after the Galactic Civil War. The attire usually was made in shades of brown or sometimes black, with a utility belt for various purposes, but also as a place on which to clip a lightsaber. Boots, loose-fitting pants and a cloak typically accompanied the garment.
You couln't wear anytype of pants, or boots, or even tunic, you needed to wear something basic and utilitarian.
A good assessment. The Obi-wan style seemed to be the same as Qui-gon. Who in turn was trained by Yoda, who if I recall trained Mace, I might be wrong. Which means that Yoda's school goes one route. Maybe a different set of Jedi have a different pattern. It might be sort of a who trained who thing that changes and evolves. Almost like a family name it symbolizes who belongs into each trainer with small differences showing up over the literally thousands of generations that Jedi have been around. And these small differences explain why they don't all look the same.
I'm reaching here, and its just something I made up to explain it but it works fairly well.
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Slight nitpick: Yoda trained Dooku, who trained Qui-Gon, who trained Obi-Wan.
More generally, the trend of Old Republic Jedi all dressing as Obi-Wan did on Tatooine is well established by the prequels. It may be a case of Yoda's line of Jedi copying him, but the fact that Yoda trained every single Jedi for the best part of a century rather makes that point moot. The only ones who I can recall dressing significantly different were Aayla Secura and Anakin Skywalker, and even the later was merely a variation on a theme.
More generally, the trend of Old Republic Jedi all dressing as Obi-Wan did on Tatooine is well established by the prequels. It may be a case of Yoda's line of Jedi copying him, but the fact that Yoda trained every single Jedi for the best part of a century rather makes that point moot. The only ones who I can recall dressing significantly different were Aayla Secura and Anakin Skywalker, and even the later was merely a variation on a theme.
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Touche. But just because every famous jedi was trained by Yoda doesn't mean that every one was. There are thousands of Jedi. And while Yoda trains young children or younglings if you want to call them the stupid name that SW does, and an occasional apprentice he doesn't always have apprentices. He didn't at the time of the prequels if I have my facts straight.Captain Seafort wrote:Slight nitpick: Yoda trained Dooku, who trained Qui-Gon, who trained Obi-Wan.
More generally, the trend of Old Republic Jedi all dressing as Obi-Wan did on Tatooine is well established by the prequels. It may be a case of Yoda's line of Jedi copying him, but the fact that Yoda trained every single Jedi for the best part of a century rather makes that point moot. The only ones who I can recall dressing significantly different were Aayla Secura and Anakin Skywalker, and even the later was merely a variation on a theme.
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My point was that he trains the children. All of them from what I understand from the EU. So, while he didn't carry out much one-to-one training for decades before Luke Skywalker came along, he was responsible for training every single Jedi at some point. Moreover, he was the Grand Master of the order; it was formed in his image, and the robes were part of that image.Monroe wrote:Touche. But just because every famous jedi was trained by Yoda doesn't mean that every one was. There are thousands of Jedi. And while Yoda trains young children or younglings if you want to call them the stupid name that SW does, and an occasional apprentice he doesn't always have apprentices. He didn't at the time of the prequels if I have my facts straight.
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maybe I'm off here, however I was thinking that Obi-wan was being trained both by Qui-gon and by Yoda.
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He was, at different points in his life. As I said, Yoda trains all the children early on, which would have included Ob-Wan.Lt. Staplic wrote:maybe I'm off here, however I was thinking that Obi-wan was being trained both by Qui-gon and by Yoda.
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yes, but I thought it went beyond that, based on some of his dialogue about what Master Yoda had taught him, I got the impression that he was being trained by both, but I guess it can also be explaind by his training as a youngling.
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Well, in the PT, all the younglings seen were wearing the same type of clothing Obi-Wan wore his entire Jedi carreer, so it's probably an obligatory uniform at younger ages, that becomes a less formalized dress-code later on.
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I doubt its that they were less formal, more just that that is what they provided to the younglings. As the kids get older they have the chance to start making their own base for clothing.
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