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Re: General UK Election thread

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:14 pm
by Mikey
Graham Kennedy wrote: UKIP collapsed
Well, there's some unequivocal good news.
Graham Kennedy wrote: Labour slumped behind the Tories, even in Scotland.
What does that bode for the secessionist movement?

Re: General UK Election thread

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:22 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Hard to say. The SNP want another referendum (apparently Sturgeon was lying her ass off when she said it was settled for a generation), so far May hasn't really said yes or no to that. The SNP seem to take the position that their winning seats = a mandate for a referendum, whilst the polls say that's not so, with the latest one saying 48% of Scottish voters oppose another referendum and only 35% support it.

May could come out of the election and say FU to another referendum, which would be a cause for the SNP to bitch and whine about English domination for years to come. But then, they're going to do that anyway since it pretty much seems to be their reason for living.

If we DID have another independence referendum and it lost again... that would pretty much nail that issue for a long time to come, I'd think. But then I thought that about the first one, so what do I know.

Re: General UK Election thread

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 10:55 am
by IanKennedy
Frankly the King and Queen of the fish people (Sturgeon and Salmond) seem determined to get Scotland out of the union no matter what the people want.

The Conservative party make quiet an improvement in Scotland this time but not by taking too many seats from the SNP. It will matter what happens in the General Election. SNP are on an all time high last time, but, if that declines this time then they may loose their mandate to whine about independence.

Re: General UK Election thread

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 10:20 pm
by Graham Kennedy
I've no doubt they will slump back some - it would be all but impossible not to, really. But it's not the MPs that matter when it comes to a new referendum, it's the MSPs, and they're not even up for election.

No matter what happens, the SNP are always going to say "it's England's fault" and "the solution is independence". They're like a broken record on both subjects.