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Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:03 pm
by McAvoy
Pretty easy to do if you just say he got promoted. Say he got assigned to the USS Reliant.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:44 pm
by IanKennedy
Apart from the fact that the others are more senior than he is, at east historically speaking.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:20 am
by Graham Kennedy
I'd probably just mention that he was transferred to another ship somewhere. A la Beverly Crusher in season 2 TNG.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:10 am
by McAvoy
Or that but since it seems this universe's timeframe for important events seems to be truncated, it is possible.

I also did not say he would be second in command just,said a throwaway line he would be on the Reliant which would be an Easter Egg.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:16 am
by Varthikes
I was thinking maybe he could be on Cestus III, either on leave or temporarily re-assigned, when the Gorn attack.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:49 pm
by IanKennedy
McAvoy wrote:Or that but since it seems this universe's timeframe for important events seems to be truncated, it is possible.

I also did not say he would be second in command just,said a throwaway line he would be on the Reliant which would be an Easter Egg.
I didn't suggest you did, however, being promoted seems a little fast, especially as he's the historically been the lowest ranked of the main crew. I've grant you that that has been because he joined late compared with the rest, and that that didn't happen this time. So perhaps, but, it still seems odd that he be the first of them to be promoted when the rest will be ignored for a good while (if the films are to continue with the current crew anyway, which seems very likely).

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:55 pm
by IanKennedy
Varthikes wrote:I was thinking maybe he could be on Cestus III, either on leave or temporarily re-assigned, when the Gorn attack.
There's any number of ways he could be killed, sure. But, I'm not overly keen to keep seeing them refer back to TOS episodes without showing anything of them. I'm not saying they should show things, but, you don't want to overuse the mechanism. Especially for something like killing off a 'main' character.

I think I'm becoming of the opinion that his expertise could be better used elsewhere so he was transferred somewhere important. Perhaps even the Daystrom Institute, he is after all talked of as a wunderkind.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:44 pm
by Captain Seafort
IanKennedy wrote:I didn't suggest you did, however, being promoted seems a little fast
It's positively sluggish by Kirk's standard of going from unemployed drunk to commanding the Enterprise in three years

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:30 am
by Graham Kennedy
You gotta love the JJ Starfleet's policy of "I'm going away now, I need to leave somebody in charge! Eenie, meenie, mineie, moe... you're the Captain now!"

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:45 am
by McAvoy
IanKennedy wrote:
McAvoy wrote:Or that but since it seems this universe's timeframe for important events seems to be truncated, it is possible.

I also did not say he would be second in command just,said a throwaway line he would be on the Reliant which would be an Easter Egg.
I didn't suggest you did, however, being promoted seems a little fast, especially as he's the historically been the lowest ranked of the main crew. I've grant you that that has been because he joined late compared with the rest, and that that didn't happen this time. So perhaps, but, it still seems odd that he be the first of them to be promoted when the rest will be ignored for a good while (if the films are to continue with the current crew anyway, which seems very likely).
You don't have to get promoted to be assigned to a new ship. Sometimes they just send you there because of manning issues.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:55 pm
by IanKennedy
Captain Seafort wrote:
IanKennedy wrote:I didn't suggest you did, however, being promoted seems a little fast
It's positively sluggish by Kirk's standard of going from unemployed drunk to commanding the Enterprise in three years
Yes, but they're not going to start sending the rest of the cast off any time soon. (likely not anyway). So that leaves you wondering why Chekhov, the most junior of them all?

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:16 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
The guy was a whiz with transporters. Say he's off at the Daystrom Institute helping refine them or something.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:16 pm
by McAvoy
Because he is junior, easier to replace with another fresh face officer.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:04 am
by Graham Kennedy
In real world Navies people transfer around all the time. Typically you'll only remain in a given post for a couple of years then move elsewhere. I'd find it completely believable that Chekov would go off to do some other job on a starbase or another ship somewhere. Hell, the unbelievable part would be that everybody else was still there!

Trek seems very different in that respect. In fact in Trek, officers in general seem to be incredibly unambitious. They stay in the same job for years on end, and the same rank often for decades. Real world militaries just don't work that way. IIRC, if you don't win promotion in the US after a few years at any given rank, you have to resign.

Re: Anton Yelchin (New Checkov) dead

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:12 am
by IanKennedy
Graham Kennedy wrote:In real world Navies people transfer around all the time. Typically you'll only remain in a given post for a couple of years then move elsewhere. I'd find it completely believable that Chekov would go off to do some other job on a starbase or another ship somewhere. Hell, the unbelievable part would be that everybody else was still there!

Trek seems very different in that respect. In fact in Trek, officers in general seem to be incredibly unambitious. They stay in the same job for years on end, and the same rank often for decades. Real world militaries just don't work that way. IIRC, if you don't win promotion in the US after a few years at any given rank, you have to resign.
As you say, Trek does work that way...