Death Star weapons question

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:From the Death Star technical companion, published by West End Games and... well, it's on a canon tier. Don't know which one, but anyway...

Weapons:

Superlaser

5,000 turbolaser batteries

5,000 heavy turbolasers.

2,500 laser cannons.

2,500 ion cannons.

768 tractor beam emplacements.
That's not really canon. If the station had lasers it could've shot down the starfighters much easier.
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Starfighters weren't considered a 'serious threat'. Capital ships were, Chakat. Imperial hubris at its finest.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Starfighters weren't considered a 'serious threat'. Capital ships were, Chakat. Imperial hubris at its finest.
What I was saying was that lasers could have shot down starfighters. In SW Blasters are anti-persenel weapons(handheld) lasers are anti-starfighter and turbolasers are capital ship weapons. As a general rule, of coarse. Far from being concrete though.
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ChakatBlackstar wrote:
What I was saying was that lasers could have shot down starfighters. In SW Blasters are anti-persenel weapons(handheld) lasers are anti-starfighter and turbolasers are capital ship weapons. As a general rule, of coarse. Far from being concrete though.
The anti-starfighter laser cannons were pretty much an afterthought on the Death Star. Notice how fewer there were of them compared to the turbolasers? And according to the manual, they were pretty spread out.

Starfighters just weren't taken seriously by the imps at the time. Pride goeth before the fall.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Starfighters weren't considered a 'serious threat'. Capital ships were, Chakat. Imperial hubris at its finest.

Ten points for hubris.



Yeah the Death Star had laser canons just not an adequate supply of them. But also remember a turbo laser shot is so powerful it doesn't actually need to hit most star fighters to destroy them. A near miss can do an unshielded fighter in as the X-Wing series demonstrates. So though turbolasers are slow and bulky they can carve a huge path of carnage through fighters.

Either way, the second generation of Death Star is pretty much perfect (or third if you count the prototype). A single Death Star II Could take on pretty much any fleet in Star Wars.
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Monroe wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Starfighters weren't considered a 'serious threat'. Capital ships were, Chakat. Imperial hubris at its finest.

Ten points for hubris.



Yeah the Death Star had laser canons just not an adequate supply of them. But also remember a turbo laser shot is so powerful it doesn't actually need to hit most star fighters to destroy them. A near miss can do an unshielded fighter in as the X-Wing series demonstrates. So though turbolasers are slow and bulky they can carve a huge path of carnage through fighters.

Either way, the second generation of Death Star is pretty much perfect (or third if you count the prototype). A single Death Star II Could take on pretty much any fleet in Star Wars.
Ah... thanks for the points.

Yes. That one didn't have thermal exhaust ports, IIRC. Well, you couldn't shoot a proton torpedo down them at any rate. And they took starfighters into account with weapon emplacements.
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Instead of large thermal exhaust points they made a few thousand ones that were like a centermeter wide I think.
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ChakatBlackstar wrote:And Seafort, two things. 1) The Death Stars are mobile battle stations not vessels.
They're starships. Huge starships, but starships nonetheless - the term "mobile battle station" is a contradiction in terms, since stations are by definition stationary.
2)We're talking about a military group that lost a moon sized station to 30 fighters and an old frieghter. Of coarse it doesn't make sense.
And the Bismarck was lost to an obsolete wood-and-canvas biplane, because it hit a vulnerable point, and the Bismarck wasn't designed as an anti-aircaft platform. The loss of the Death Star was due to 1) lack of appriciation of the danger posed by small fighter in the design stage, 2) Tarkin's arrogance in refusing to swamp the Rebel attack with hundreds or thousands of TIEs and 3) Luke's force abilities - a non-force-sensitive wouldn't have been able to make that shot.
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Monroe wrote:Instead of large thermal exhaust points they made a few thousand ones that were like a centermeter wide I think.
And one giant holw that the Falcon could fly all the wat to the middle through...
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That part was still in the works... :?
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Deepcrush wrote:That part was still in the works... :?
*Construstion crews whistles and walks away*
"Yes sir. We did away with the exhaust port that caused the "problem" with DS1."
"Good, good. Hold on, what's this?"
"What"
"This... hole"
"Oh... um... that's a um... it's an atrium!"
"Oh, okay... that will ne nice."
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Jim wrote:
Deepcrush wrote:That part was still in the works... :?
*Construstion crews whistles and walks away*
"Yes sir. We did away with the exhaust port that caused the "problem" with DS1."
"Good, good. Hold on, what's this?"
"What"
"This... hole"
"Oh... um... that's a um... it's an atrium!"
"Oh, okay... that will ne nice."
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Hey! thats not what I was talking about!
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Jim wrote:
Deepcrush wrote:That part was still in the works... :?
*Construstion crews whistles and walks away*
"Yes sir. We did away with the exhaust port that caused the "problem" with DS1."
"Good, good. Hold on, what's this?"
"What"
"This... hole"
"Oh... um... that's a um... it's an atrium!"
"Oh, okay... that will ne nice."
Hehe, nice. :)

in all seriousness, that hole the Falcon and other fighters flew through was simply so large construction machinery could reach the interior structures of DS II. It was supposed to be sealed up but... Endor happened.
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Well that was a good run for the movie. They got rid of what the big problem would have been if they had finished it but the Emperor got to trigger happy and look what happened for it.
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