The Maquis

[Mikey]

As to the OP - I liked the inclusion of the victims of the UFP's policies, seeing the ballsier side of humanity, etc. I just didn't care for how the Maquis were portrayed once they were included. Where they should have been righteous guerillas, they were instead shown as little more than brigands.

[Deepcrush]

As to the OP - I liked the inclusion of the victims of the UFP's policies, seeing the ballsier side of humanity, etc. I just didn't care for how the Maquis were portrayed once they were included. Where they should have been righteous guerillas, they were instead shown as little more than brigands.

Remember though that we are watching things from the UFP point of view. As such, the Maquis weren't righteous at all. They were traitors.

[Lighthawk]

As to the OP - I liked the inclusion of the victims of the UFP's policies, seeing the ballsier side of humanity, etc. I just didn't care for how the Maquis were portrayed once they were included. Where they should have been righteous guerillas, they were instead shown as little more than brigands.

Remember though that we are watching things from the UFP point of view. As such, the Maquis weren't righteous at all. They were traitors.

Just because the show wants to put it's own spin on how we should view something doesn't mean we have to. Otherwise, we'd have to accept Neelix as a lovable character.

[Deepcrush]

I agree fully, I was just pointing as to why the Maquis were shown as they were. However, I think by the end of their time. DS9 had done a much better job of showing them as people, not as crooks.

[USSEnterprise]

Remember though that we are watching things from the UFP point of view.

If we were to use that point of view the Federation would be a perfect world and Starfleet would be perfectly competent...

[Mikey]

As to the OP - I liked the inclusion of the victims of the UFP's policies, seeing the ballsier side of humanity, etc. I just didn't care for how the Maquis were portrayed once they were included. Where they should have been righteous guerillas, they were instead shown as little more than brigands.

Remember though that we are watching things from the UFP point of view. As such, the Maquis weren't righteous at all. They were traitors.

I'm not talking about how other people spoke of the Maquis - I'm talking about how I saw them operate (for the most part, DS9 showed examples on both ends of the spectrum.)

[Deepcrush]

Since most of them lacked combat training I would expect that most would act much the same about battle as many of the civilian members of DITL do. Its a lot of guess work followed by trial and error, mostly error. They did the best they could with what they had.

[Deepcrush]

Remember though that we are watching things from the UFP point of view.

If we were to use that point of view the Federation would be a perfect world and Starfleet would be perfectly competent...

You can listen to someone talk about something they agree with and still look at them for the retards they are.

[SomosFuga]

So, what will happen with the maquis' worlds now that the CU lost the war? will those worlds return back to the Federation after UFP betrayed them turning over them to a hostile foreign power or will they remain independent? will the UFP allowed them independence?

[Mikey]

I don't see why the UFP wouldn't allow them to be independent; the UFP was the entity that was willing to throw them to the wolves in the first place.

[SomosFuga]

I don't see why the UFP wouldn't allow them to be independent; the UFP was the entity that was willing to throw them to the wolves in the first place.

Yes but those wolves have no teeth anymore, why the federation would let those planets loose? UFP is after all a power with expansionist interests trying to get new members, territories, planets, etc. All this assuming the allies, specifically UFP, took territory from CU and the Breen Confederacy wich is very logical. Moreover, assuming the maquis' worlds wanna be independent wich is very likely.

[Mikey]

why the federation would let those planets loose?

Why? They did it when those worlds would be annexed by an erstwhile enemy; why would we assume that they wouldn't when no enemy would gain from them?

assuming the maquis' worlds wanna be independent wich is very likely.

Yeah, remain independent or join up with the people they were bombing? I think we can assume that they want to remain independent.

[Foxfyre]

I kind of wish they shown them winning against the CU and becoming there own sovereign power. Would have been interesting, don't really like how it ended for the Maquis

[Mikey]

I kind of wish they shown them winning against the CU and becoming there own sovereign power. Would have been interesting, don't really like how it ended for the Maquis

That would have been a HUGE stretch of credibility, even agaisnt a CU that was resource-poor compared to other major powers. Would you have easily believed it if the show showed the modern-day PLO defeating Israel in a conventional war?

BTW, you may want to fix the link on your sig.

[stitch626]

BTW, you may want to fix the link on your sig.

You never know he may want it that way.

As for the Maquis, while I didn't like the way they appear to have ended, I can't see it ending much differently. Then again, I'm not a writer.