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Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:18 am
by Mark
Mikey wrote:Striker's right - to our pitiful little human brains, there really is no practical difference between "infinite" and "an amazingly huge number." The fact that all "crossovers" we've seen occur between "our" universe and the one particular "mirror" universe leads one ot believe that there are a far smaller number f universes out theres, and/or the MU is, indeed, linked in a special way to our own.
Or are we SURE it is the same universe? The mirror universe COULD have split into two more universes. One giving us the joke of a MU in DS9, and the one that SHOULD have been in Diane Duane's book.

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:12 am
by Mikey
Great. This is a situation which really needs extra complication.

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:40 am
by Mark
8) My gift to all of you. 8)

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:38 am
by Sionnach Glic
DIanne Duanne book isn't canon.

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:14 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Well we know that in Trek universes "branch" every time a decision is made, like in Parallels. The Mirror Universe Kirk visited is one such line that branched off from ours at some point in the past. It absolutely should continue branching over time after Kirk leaves. So really there will be many different versions of the mirror universe in existence where Kirk visited, and then it took one course or another afterwards.

So really there's no reason why the DS9 and the Diane Duane versions of the MU shouldn't both exist.

Personally I think the DS9 version of the MU sucked ass. It missed the whole point of the MU. The Enterprise version rocked, though, and got it exactly right. So did Duane's version.

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:45 pm
by thelordharry
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:*Goes to search for the Sailor Moon universe*
Is there a mirror 'booze and strippers' universe? Maybe a 'teatotal and fully clothed' universe for example?

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:48 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Well we know that in Trek universes "branch" every time a decision is made, like in Parallels. The Mirror Universe Kirk visited is one such line that branched off from ours at some point in the past. It absolutely should continue branching over time after Kirk leaves. So really there will be many different versions of the mirror universe in existence where Kirk visited, and then it took one course or another afterwards.

So really there's no reason why the DS9 and the Diane Duane versions of the MU shouldn't both exist.
Oh, I agree. If you wanted, you could fit it in with no problems.
Personally I think the DS9 version of the MU sucked ass. It missed the whole point of the MU. The Enterprise version rocked, though, and got it exactly right. So did Duane's version.
Again, agreed. The DS9 version was nothing like the original from TOS, and the ENT version was surprisingly good (probably the best of the entire ENT series).

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:33 pm
by Mikey
GrahamKennedy wrote:Well we know that in Trek universes "branch" every time a decision is made, like in Parallels. The Mirror Universe Kirk visited is one such line that branched off from ours at some point in the past. It absolutely should continue branching over time after Kirk leaves. So really there will be many different versions of the mirror universe in existence where Kirk visited, and then it took one course or another afterwards.

So really there's no reason why the DS9 and the Diane Duane versions of the MU shouldn't both exist.

Personally I think the DS9 version of the MU sucked ass. It missed the whole point of the MU. The Enterprise version rocked, though, and got it exactly right. So did Duane's version.
Agreed on all counts.
thelordharry wrote:Is there a mirror 'booze and strippers' universe? Maybe a 'teatotal and fully clothed' universe for example?
So, you believe in hell, then?

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:59 pm
by thelordharry
Mikey wrote:
thelordharry wrote:Is there a mirror 'booze and strippers' universe? Maybe a 'teatotal and fully clothed' universe for example?
So, you believe in hell, then?
No no no just ignore me, I didn't know what I was saying (sweating profusely)....

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:45 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Maybe there's a universe where it's ALL booze and strippers... and me. Nothing else.

Why can't I be there, dammit!

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:59 pm
by Tsukiyumi
GrahamKennedy wrote:Maybe there's a universe where it's ALL booze and strippers... and me. Nothing else.

Why can't I be there, dammit!
Wouldn't you need food?

...or air?

:lol:

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:03 pm
by Mark
Food and air are overrated!

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:10 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Mark wrote:Food and air are overrated!
If you're a Breathairian, you'd only need the air, apparently. :lol:

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:54 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
GrahamKennedy wrote:Well we know that in Trek universes "branch" every time a decision is made, like in Parallels. The Mirror Universe Kirk visited is one such line that branched off from ours at some point in the past. It absolutely should continue branching over time after Kirk leaves. So really there will be many different versions of the mirror universe in existence where Kirk visited, and then it took one course or another afterwards.

So really there's no reason why the DS9 and the Diane Duane versions of the MU shouldn't both exist.

Personally I think the DS9 version of the MU sucked ass. It missed the whole point of the MU. The Enterprise version rocked, though, and got it exactly right. So did Duane's version.
I agree. I loathed the DSN mirrorverse. Gimme the ISS Enterprise, run by the semi-literate Jean-Luc Picard with celibate William Riker!
thelordharry wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:*Goes to search for the Sailor Moon universe*
Is there a mirror 'booze and strippers' universe? Maybe a 'teatotal and fully clothed' universe for example?
I'll take the Sailor Moon universe. Besides Star Trek, it's one of the few fictional realities I'd want to live in.

Of course, in some reality out there, we are fictional characters...

Re: Kirk and the Mirror Universe...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:56 pm
by Aaron
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

I'll take the Sailor Moon universe. Besides Star Trek, it's one of the few fictional realities I'd want to live in.
The crappy NA version or the original Japanese porn version?