What did we like

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:56 pm

Mark wrote:...a couple of times when we saw hull breaches, you could actually see some luckless crew people getting sucked out into the vacuum of space. Morbid, but it was a nicely added detail.

Too bad none of them were Rick Berman, Brannon Braga, or Les Moonves.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:06 am

Tsukiyumi wrote:
Mark wrote:...a couple of times when we saw hull breaches, you could actually see some luckless crew people getting sucked out into the vacuum of space. Morbid, but it was a nicely added detail.
Too bad none of them were Rick Berman, Brannon Braga, or Les Moonves.

True.....the show could have been saved 8)

cbosdell · Post by **cbosdell** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:35 am

I like most everything except:

* The Music in the Opening Credits

* The Crossing (episode showing noncorporal beings even though Errand of Mercy was supposed to be Starfleet's first encounter with such lifeform and Observer Effect is fine since their memories of it are erases)

* A few other's that I can't think of the top of my head mainly boring episodes and rehashed plots in the first two seasons

In particular I loved the uniforms (especially Archer's dress uniform from TATV) and set layouts (really the production values in general), the visuals in the opening credits, the closing credits music, the special effects, all the characters except Travis, Andorians -- Shran, Observer Effect (best episode of Star Trek imo), the Vulcan Arc and Romulan/Aenar/BOTF arc in season four, IAMD, the Romulans in season four, Similitude, Twilight, Damage and Countdown, the massive increase in continuity compared to Voyager and TNG especially in Season's 3 and 4, the potential it had if only it had been given a fifth and final season to wrap things up.

Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:42 am

You guys have reminded of a couple of positive points that I'd forgotten. The treatment of Andorians, certainly, and the visual production. The unis, the bulkheads/hatches/etc., the hull detail of the NX-01 (if not the design of the ship) all looked as they should have - somewhat more primitive and utilitarian than what was to come later.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:50 am

I liked a lot of it. I loved the opening sequence-music especially. It was a lot lower-tech than TOS, and cool how humanity had to find its place in the galaxy. Andorians, Vulcans and Tellarites got more screentime and development.

Post by **Teaos** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:04 am

I liked the opening music as well and visuals as well.

kostmayer · Post by **kostmayer** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:09 pm

Mark wrote:Wow Graham, you articulated several of my thoughts as well. One thing I would like to throw in, and it's a bit grusome, was a couple of times when we saw hull breaches, you could actually see some luckless crew people getting sucked out into the vacuum of space. Morbid, but it was a nicely added detail.

Yeah, but just once I'd have liked to have seen someone being sucked out into space while still sitting on a toilet reading a newspaper, thus joining the mighty ranks of Elvis and Vincent Vega by dying on the job. Watch out for the floaters.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:51 pm

...Vincent Vega...

Was he the guy in Jurassic Park?

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:51 pm

Which one?

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:55 pm

The one who got eaten while sitting on the toilet...

Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:00 pm

stitch626 wrote:
...Vincent Vega...
Was he the guy in Jurassic Park?

John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:01 pm

Mikey wrote:
stitch626 wrote:
...Vincent Vega...
Was he the guy in Jurassic Park?
John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction.

Oh. Never saw it.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:20 pm

"What did we like"

The women!

thelordharry · Post by **thelordharry** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:01 pm

Talking of hull breaches and being blown out into space...along the same morbids lines, I remember that episode where Archer was stuck in some sort of space prison (?) or the internals of a space station where there was some sort of transporter block, really can't remember....and ordered the ENT to blow the hatch with it's phasers so he was blown out into space but then immediately transported back onto the ship before the obvious. The next scene is of Archer on the transporter pad, covered in ice, looking the worse for wear. No one really knows what would really happen in a situation like that but I thought it was very well done from a SFX point of view and something not really done before in Trek.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:05 pm

You know, something just occured to me. I'm rewatching Enterprise season 4 and Columbia is supposed to be equipped with pulse phaser cannons (which is supposed to be 24th century Defiant tech) but that's ok, I can let that slide. But she was also supposed to have dorsal and venteral torpedoes, which I thought was a hell of an idea. Just wonder why nobody thought of it until the last season of the last series.

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