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Mikey wrote:True, but Palpy always liked his contingency and contingent-contingency plans. Heck, it's entirely possible that he kept Vader around merely for the future purpose of baiting Luke.

Quite likely considering Vader had several apprientices, at least one of which being a secret from the Emperor (or tried to anyway). The Emperor also let Vader feel at least somewhat challenged by Xizor even though the idea of a Fallen taking the Dark Lord's position is silly it kept Vader on his toes.

Mikey wrote:True, but Palpy always liked his contingency and contingent-contingency plans. Heck, it's entirely possible that he kept Vader around merely for the future purpose of baiting Luke.

Wasn't Vader the one that suggested luring Luke to the dark-side?

Vader: "He... will come to me?"
Palpy: "I have foreseen it."

mlsnoopy wrote:
Wasn't Vader the one that suggested luring Luke to the dark-side?

Yes, he did. The Emperor even asked if it could be done.

Though I hear the dialogue has been changed in the latest SE.

Oh poor Vader. Since diologue doesn't have to match lip movement Lucas can just throw on what he wants as he descends into dementia.

I'm imagining 2012 where he descides Vader took too much damage down below and have him re-voiced by Dame Edna.

sunnyside wrote:Oh poor Vader. Since diologue doesn't have to match lip movement Lucas can just throw on what he wants as he descends into dementia.

I'm imagining 2012 where he descides Vader took too much damage down below and have him re-voiced by Dame Edna.

Jeez what's he say now?


At any rate if Vader asked first it doesn't mean the Emperor didn't plan it all. This is palpatine afterall. He likes people to discover the right choice of actions that he's already preplanned for.

Monroe wrote:
Jeez what's he say now?

I don't know for sure, I refuse to watch any version save the original. Praise be to Lucasfilm for issuing new DVD's at the cost of 24.99$ a piece!

At any rate if Vader asked first it doesn't mean the Emperor didn't plan it all. This is palpatine afterall. He likes people to discover the right choice of actions that he's already preplanned for.

True, I read in the depths of the EU (scuba suit required) that he already knew Vaders plans to get Luke to help overthrow him.

I have never read any EU stuff, but it sure does sound like Palpy!

Mikey wrote:I have never read any EU stuff, but it sure does sound like Palpy!

Yeah. He always had plans within plans within plans. Hell even in Episode III Anakin tried to talk Padme into helping him overthrow the Emperor. And it is Sith tradition and all

If i may say something? =p

I just got back froma First Aid Course with the red cross, and we were doing this this morning, actually.

Unconsiousness is actually a much rarer medical condition than most people think, and is related with lack of oxygen to the brain. Its fatal in around 7 minuites, and is quite hard to induce via chemical means - but easily induced by choking or other physical damage.

ANYWAY when someone falls unconsious you should allways open the airways and stick them into the recovery positon. You see, when you're unconsious - truley unconsious, not just forcibly asleep - your muscles go limp. All of them. Which includes your toungue. Your toungue is actually a MASSIVE muscle, but because its partially tense allmost all the time you think its actually quite short. But when its completley relaxed its perfectly big enough to flop back down your throat and completley plug your airways, choking you to death. (The recovery positon buts you on your side facing downwards, so your toungue just lolls out your mouth and doesnt do that.)

Secondly, when i say all your muscles relax, that means your Digestive Sphincters too. Which means that vomit flows up your throat and blocks the airways, killing you, which is why most people who die when unconsious are actually drowning on their own sick. The recovery postion, again, lets all this flow out onto the floor and your boots (lovley)

So, so long as Vader tosses his victims backwards so they land on their backs, he's actually killing them by making them choke on their own vomit or toungue. Thats cold.

Ah. So instead of the "choke," should we call it "the Dark Side-induced rock star death?"

Mikey wrote:Ah. So instead of the "choke," should we call it "the Dark Side-induced rock star death?"

" What happened here?"

" Vader got him with the Force-Morrison, sir."

Tsukiyumi wrote:

Mikey wrote:Ah. So instead of the "choke," should we call it "the Dark Side-induced rock star death?"

" What happened here?"

" Vader got him with the Force-Morrison, sir."

"At least he didn't get Elvis'd"

"And what's that sandwich doing in his mouth?"

"Lord Vader gave hime a Force-Mama Cass."

Too far?

WTF is a Mama Cass?