What have ships done without warp cores?

Post by **Teaos** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:28 pm

There is almost no point in running them on 15%. It would be a secondary power unit that is better used on other things like... keeping people alive.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:30 pm

Several times in battle, they have taken power from life support to power shields and weapons. If your ship blows up, it doesn't matter that you were comfourable the whole time.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:31 pm

Surviving the battle dosent matter if your dead from cold and no Oxygen.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:36 pm

But you wouldn't survive the battle if you died of no oxygen. Besides, life support includes showers (most likely), lights, gravity, heat, ventilation, and you could move power around enough.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:39 pm

Whats Phasers at 10% gonna do?

If your in that bad of shape your pretty much screwed.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:43 pm

Without warp power, they still have EPS and fusion reactors. Thet should be suffitient for something. Besides, I'd take the 2% chance of survival over 0% anyday. Unless I knew that whoever we were fighting would accept surrender (yes I'd surrender.). Of course, if it be the Borg, I'd do a last bit of damage and ram the ship (despiration, Worf style).

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:44 pm

Besides, E-E in Insurrection didn't have a warp core, and they were able to fire phasers fine.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:45 pm

I'd rather keep my ship habitable and hope for the best.

Most people accept surrender. Most people arent beat by a ship at 10% power.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:47 pm

The E-E in Insurrection worked fine without a warp core. Used phasers to destroy the collector and diable Ruafo's ship. Having phasers only work with warp is a bad idea.

sunnyside · Post by **sunnyside** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:31 pm

Hmm checking Insurection. Well after losing the core Riker used his character shield to take out two ships with a could of gas.

After that the shimp moves around fine under impulse (I do think it's well established the fusion plant for the impulse engines is just find for moving at impulse speeds.

Then I believe it gets one good phaser raking on the Son'a ship. (The collecter was taken out by picard I'm pretty sure).

So that might be about right.

stitch626 · Post by **stitch626** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:33 pm

You're right about the collector, sorry.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:11 pm

The point is, it's phasers were not solely tied to the WC. And limiting the availability of your primary armament in that manner stretches even Starfleet's design idiocy. I mean, a 5-year-old wouldn't build a toy ship like that.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:31 pm

Yeah sure they could be tied into a weak secondary power unit but not doing so hardly cripples the ship and is not te hight of stupidity.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:35 pm

Sure it is. How much more resource-intensive could it be to have your weapons set up as a normal powered system rather than tied directly and exclusively to only one of your available power sources? You need your phasers most when the situation is bad, not when it's good.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:37 pm

But your in a bad situation and if you di plug in your phasers to that other power unit they are going to be working at far below capacity while taking power away from life support and other vital areas.