Are the Romulans weak?

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Didn't really take that much of a beating (that we saw).
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Of course not, the Promethues's weapons were plot-powered.
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Of course maybe their shields were down when they were attempting to transport aboard???
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It was also several minutes into a battle verses an Akira and two Defiants... so I'd expect the D'D to be weakened.
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the prometheus is massively over powered for how it's designed, even if each section has its own warp core it still doesn't account for the amount of damage that it inflicts. :|
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lcpl seilicki wrote:the prometheus is massively over powered for how it's designed, even if each section has its own warp core it still doesn't account for the amount of damage that it inflicts. :|
The Prommy is a wank ship... sad to say though its a Canon wank ship.
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I think GK's write-up on the main site helps with that a bit; the type 12 phasers from the Sovereign, coupled with experimental power systems and shields (plus the ablative armor).

Though, after watching the episode again earlier tonight... It pasted an uprated Nebula with ease. The D'D isn't even a one on one match for a Nebula; with two Defiants, an Akira, and the Prometheus, even three of them were seriously outmatched. I doubt three GCS would have done any better against that force.
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The major problem is that ships in Trek go up and down in ability according to plot so today those ships were nothing but tomorrow they could hold off an enemy task force on their own with little trouble.

Thats one of the nice things about Babylon 5 over Trek. It was easy to know who could take who and it never changed.
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I definitely agree.

I also agree that the Prometheus is a wank ship too. Just something 'kool' to boost ratings. I honestly think they could have done just as well with a new Sovereign.
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Problem is explaining how the Romulans got that far inside of UFP space and managed to over power the crew and then get past all of the failsafes and defenses on the way out then somehow take out a Nebula Class ship in a single shot. If that were the case the Romulans would have needed a fleet of ships just to engage the Prommy, let alone take her over.

The ship could have been any ship, even a lame old duck which would be far easier to believe. A science ship testing out a new EMH program and the Romulans wanted it just to find out what the ship was doing.
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Deepcrush wrote:Problem is explaining how the Romulans got that far inside of UFP space and managed to over power the crew and then get past all of the failsafes and defenses on the way out then somehow take out a Nebula Class ship in a single shot. If that were the case the Romulans would have needed a fleet of ships just to engage the Prommy, let alone take her over.



Not really all it would take is a stolen shuttlecraft
equipped with a cloaking device. As soon as the prommy got close the romulans beam onto the bridge disable everyone there and then vent the entire ship (minus the bridge) of atmosphere. Ship captured. Hell you just have to use SF against itself
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I remember there was four or five personnel on board the Prometheus. So as far as that is concerned, it's not that bad.

I like your idea better Deepcrush. Maybe some random Starfleet ship on verge of transiting the Neutral Zone with Romulan ships on one side and Starfleet ships on the other.
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I could see the likes of a Norway class or if you wanted something big a Nebula. Not very fast, and getting a bit long in the tooth.
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lcpl seilicki wrote:
Deepcrush wrote:Problem is explaining how the Romulans got that far inside of UFP space and managed to over power the crew and then get past all of the failsafes and defenses on the way out then somehow take out a Nebula Class ship in a single shot. If that were the case the Romulans would have needed a fleet of ships just to engage the Prommy, let alone take her over.


Not really all it would take is a stolen shuttlecraft
equipped with a cloaking device. As soon as the prommy got close the romulans beam onto the bridge disable everyone there and then vent the entire ship (minus the bridge) of atmosphere. Ship captured. Hell you just have to use SF against itself
True enough, SF security is about as useful as the french army. Still, just one person should have been able to lock out the system.
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Hell you could replace SF security with the US Coast Gaurd and it would be improved 900%. As it stands right now you could give me a squad of half trained squids ( navy personal for those that don't know) and I could take the bridge of any SF ship in less than a minute, and if I had half way decent intell less than 30 seconds. SF has lost the warrior culture that every person in uniform should live up to
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