musings on the most famous of grudges

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:14 pm

Good. Then I shallt never ask.

*dives out window*

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:28 pm

We've got plenty of examples of torpedoes changing course mid-flight (the one in Generations for example). I was wondering whether we had canon evidence of torpedoes being fire-and-forget rather than dependant of guidance from the launch platform. I expect they are, but given Starfleet's track record in implementing common-sense measures I'd like absolute evidence from the show.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:38 pm

I didn't see anyone guilding the PT in ST6, they just changed the tagerting system, not cpu. The flight system was the same.

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:39 pm

In Enterprise one of the Torps does a 90 degree change around an asteroid. I think the problem why they miss often is because other ships have jammers in place to confuse missiles.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:40 pm

Well, i got yelled at before for talking about jammers so becareful where you walk, there are sharks in that there water boy.

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:04 pm

Deepcrush wrote:Well, i got yelled at before for talking about jammers so becareful where you walk, there are sharks in that there water boy.

lol, well unless there's another plausible explaination that seems to be the most likely.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:14 pm

Indeed, it seems that the most likely system is a guided torpedo. Although, sometimes I wonder...

Post by **Teaos** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:46 am

I doubt they are controlled from the ship as Starfleet tends to frown on remote control operations. They could be taken over mid flight.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:26 am

Actually, I was just referring to an example of the SOTA... I didn't mean to imply that any one modern tech would be analagous to any particular Treknology. You guys are so damn literal! Haven't you ever heard of a friggin' metaphor? (i.e., Rochey - I'm not as dumb as a bag of hammers - I know you can't have a guided directed-energy weapon!)

Anyhoo, I don't recall any particular instance of seeing someone actually guide a torp in real time. Any evidence to the contrary?

Post by **Teaos** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:31 am

Well with a spread of several torpedoes I doubt you could control them. That and they are travelling so damn fast you couldnt really do it well.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:53 am

Agreed. Even if we were to assume that a torp was set for a particular target and then allowed to be guided by the computer, we would have had to have seen some sort of active sensor system to relay the torp's telemetry, and we have seen nothing like that. In fact, such a system would give any bogey a big red flag that fire is incoming.