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Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:18 pm
by Tyyr
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:That's an interesting idea. I've been wondering how Harrison could have gotten such a big ship ever since, well, yesterday. He's described as a 'top operative' (whatever that means) but he'd need access to a huge amount of resources to have built that. We've speculated that development has accelerated for Starfleet in this new universe ever since the Narada/Kelvin battle so the Excelsior program could have gotten a head start/been fast tracked. As an insider Harrison would have advanced knowledge of these secret programs.
*there's also room for overlap between this and the "Section 31/covert branch" theory
That was my thinking. The Narada kicked the shit out of the fleet in its entirety. Given this threat demonstration they might have sped up plans to build a newer, larger class of starships.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:33 pm
by kostmayer
Reminds me of the Ambassador class.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:18 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Given that they talk about him being one of their operatives, I was thinking that he is the Captain of that ship. He's the anti-Kirk, essentially, and he and his crew have gone rogue or something?
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:27 am
by Teaos
I was talking yesterday with Tsu and Kendall and we were wondering if this was the start of a civil war in the Federation stemming from the destruction of Vulcan.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:59 pm
by DarkMoineau
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!
It's the biggest UFP ship ever, no?
JJ clearly loves big ships, as a good Star Wars fan (I had my crush for big ships too when younger ^^) but with ships of same era going from 300 to 1600m... I think he will not stop and we will see again bigger ship in 2015.
I just don't see... How secrets agents who are supposed to be "stealth" can have the use of something so big and visible?
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:09 am
by Graham Kennedy
Physical size would count for very little indeed as far as detection range in space is concerned. Even a ship this large would be an invisible dot once it was a hundred miles or so away.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:17 am
by McAvoy
I subscribe to the idea that the timeline not only changed but he makeup of the universe overall. Which would explain the excessive size of the ships, people not looking like what they looked like in the Prime Verse etc.
Insert quantum Abrams-effect on everything.
I was kinda hoping his guy was a second in command or a high ranking agent to Khan who reveals himself at the end.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:34 am
by DarkMoineau
GrahamKennedy wrote:Physical size would count for very little indeed as far as detection range in space is concerned. Even a ship this large would be an invisible dot once it was a hundred miles or so away.
It's a good point but with the Star Trek sensors able to lock a specific someone from orbit it's true that I start thinking at them as able to detect everything not cloaked. ^^
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:16 am
by Captain Seafort
GrahamKennedy wrote:Physical size would count for very little indeed as far as detection range in space is concerned. Even a ship this large would be an invisible dot once it was a hundred miles or so away.
It would also stand out like a sore thumb from its waste heat.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:48 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Captain Seafort wrote:GrahamKennedy wrote:Physical size would count for very little indeed as far as detection range in space is concerned. Even a ship this large would be an invisible dot once it was a hundred miles or so away.
It would also stand out like a sore thumb from its waste heat.
Which no one in Trek seems to think of.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:28 pm
by Tyyr
Which no one in almost any Sci-Fi seems to remember.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:14 pm
by Teaos
They quantum stuff like that away with shields ect.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:14 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Captain Seafort wrote:GrahamKennedy wrote:Physical size would count for very little indeed as far as detection range in space is concerned. Even a ship this large would be an invisible dot once it was a hundred miles or so away.
It would also stand out like a sore thumb from its waste heat.
At that point you're into how well sensors work along with shields, cloaking, etc, most of which may as well be magic moonbeams and fairy dust for all the attention that's given to real science in Star Trek.
Re: Final US Domestic Trailer Revealed
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:05 pm
by Deepcrush
Tyyr wrote:The perspective could be skewed.
That said, Excelsior?
It does show some of the design features. Bulked central hull and extended saucer section. Growth rates being double(ish) in the A-Verse, it very well could represent the Excelsior project. Remember the size difference between the Ent-A and the Excelsior and later Ent-B.