Species of the week: Xindi

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:14 am

we only ever saw an avian head,afterall, a skull to be precise

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:17 am

They said the skies used to be filled with Avians. I took that to mean independent flight.

I liked the Xindi personally.

Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:32 am

Monroe wrote:They said the skies used to be filled with Avians. I took that to mean independent flight.

OK, if that was said onscreen, I'll accept it. It begs the question, though, of hands. It just wouldn't work as far as the avian forelimbs we know of, and even 'Trek has never gone far enough, IIRC, to claim a vertebrate species with more than four limbs.

Post by **Teaos** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:17 am

They could have hands at the end of their wings. Bats have something like that.

Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:34 am

In bats and birds, the leading edge of the wing closest to the body is an analog of our arm; the outer part of the leading edge of the wing is actually one of the fingers. In order to make the winf a functioning airfoil, the other "fingers" have atrophied to vestigial status.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:47 pm

Minus the Cannon, i liked the Xindi. The different races where fun to watch and i liked how the got along. Like someone one here said before they each had a role to play for their whole race.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:57 pm

I just don't see how you could extrapolate that kind of cooperation among 6 (now 5 - see what I mean?) species all competing for the same lving space (more or less) and resources.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:08 pm

the xindi council had mentioned the racial strife of the xindi,in the past, in fact, that was the sorrowful lament of the others regarding the avian xindi, as it were xindi-xindi conflict that were the cause of the extinction which acted as the momentum for the formation of the seemingly represenative and egalitarian yet strained xindi council, and part of what underlined their psyche now

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:08 pm

Indeed, it would be extremely unlikely.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:28 pm

Exactly my point. As Granitehewer mentioned, the scale of "Xindi-on-Xindi violence" exemplified by the extinction of the avians just shows how what they have is a precarious balance at best, rather than outright long-term cooperation.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:29 pm

damn precarious, any council scene illustrates that

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:32 pm

Indeed. I can imagine that whole planet being spitting distance from killing each other off permanently.
Hmm, maybe that's the reason we never heard of them in any other series? They may have already killed each other off.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:33 pm

i wonder if a founder would actually have to expend much effort to cause a civil war on xindi.........

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:34 pm

Nope, probably very little.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:37 pm

for anyone unfamiliar with enterprise, imagine the insectoid, and reptile xindi as rochey, and the aquatic, arboreal and humanoid xindi as teaos, lol!