Inglorious Bastards

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Inglorious Bastards

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Anyone else seen this yet? I'm just back. It was great. Lots of Tarantino-style over the top violence and crazy plans. :)

A few things surprised me, though. Most notably the fact that the Germans weren't portrayed as uber-evil villains. In fact, there's a couple you actualy sympathise with. Hell, at times I actualy found it more difficult to sympathise with the titular Inglorious Bastards, particularly what happened to Wille. Though technicaly the Bastards didn't kill him; their contact did.

And the things that surprised me most, of course, is:
Well, let's just say that Tarantino won't be getting any awards for historical accuracy. :wink:
The Bastard's plan -along with the plan of the cinema owner- actualy succeeds. Hitler, Goering, Goebels and Ernst Borman all die, along with a large number of Nazi higher-ups. The war ends in 1944, and the history books get re-written to include an SS officer who was of course helping them all along and not at all just capitalising on the situation.
In short, if you want historical accuracy, don't go. If you want brilliantly over the top silly Nazi-scalp collecting, go. :)
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OH GOD I have to see this!!!!
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Sounds great. :)
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I haven't seen it yet, but I was pleasantly surprised to hear Tarantino say that he based the Basterds' tactics on 19th century Apache resistance.
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The lead Bastard is a descendent of one of the Apache tribes, IIRC.

Nazi scalping ahoy! :)
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Just for the record, bounties were placed on Native scalps first.

That said, it's a fitting end for a Nazi. :wink:
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Tsukiyumi wrote:Just for the record, bounties were placed on Native scalps first.

That said, it's a fitting end for a Nazi. :wink:
Yes, I think we all know that. Nobody was judging the Apaches for it, I was just saying I thought it was interesting. The Apaches themselves were initially one of the more peaceable tribes of the SW Native Americans.
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Mikey wrote:Yes, I think we all know that...
You might be surprised how many people don't. :?




Anyways, looks great; I'm looking forward to seeing it. :)
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Both sides committed atrocities back then. It's the same in every war.
In some cases, such as WW2, it's just a lot more clear which side is the more evil.
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Tsukiyumi wrote:
You might be surprised how many people don't. :?
First I'd ever heard of it but then I'm not an American either.
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Well, that was a damn good movie.
And the final scene in the theater was one of the most cathartic that I've ever seen. I was figuring that fate would conspire to foil the Basterds' plan, but Tarantino just decided to give a giant "fuck you!" to history, which is awesome.
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I actually like the "alternate history" genre. :)
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Me too. :)
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What I think is great is that at no point prior to the very end do you ever get any idea that Hitler and Co are going to get killed. Nothing leads you to believe that the timeline is any different from our one. Everything is perfectly set up for both plots to fail, so its success just comes as a total shock. Sheer brilliance. :)
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Saw it today. I did like it, but not as much as I expected to. We don't get nearly as much of Brad Pitt's nazi-killing activities as I would have liked. Less time with the Jewish lady, more time with brutality to nazis please!
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