Hirogen vs. Klingon

[Mark]

Oh, it was a best seller alright. People thought it was a hilarious read.

Its required reading at the acadamy as an example of exactly what NOT to do.......

[Captain Picard's Hair]

Yikes, I'd forgotten how huge and generally über the Hirogen were made out to be!

[Nutso]

The Hirogen would kick the Klingon's butt so hard he'll never shit solid again.

[SomosFuga]

Yikes, I'd forgotten how huge and generally über the Hirogen were made out to be!

The problem is that this particular episode make the hirogen huge and generally uber because they are the new super powerful bad guys so this hirogen could probably kick any klingon's ass but we have never get to see hirogen this impresive again. The hirogen we saw in later episodes are way weaker than this ones and a klingon should be a worthy opponent.

[Mark]

That's a good point. The Hirogen DID seems to shrink to normal size as the series went on.

[Sionnach Glic]

Perhaps a different ethicity within the species itself?

[Captain Picard's Hair]

Maybe the original "featured" Hirogen hunter was just a giant among his own kind? How many different Hirogen have we seen (did we see many more of the original über-Hirogen's crew)?

If that is the case, than we can say "Alpha-Hirogen" wipes the floor with any Klingon (yes, even you, Worf) but against a normal sized Hirogen Worf may deliver his usual ass-kicking, if perhaps with a bit more effort than *usual*.

[Tsukiyumi]

Makes me wonder about Hirogen vs Jem'Hadar.

[Captain Picard's Hair]

Makes me wonder about Hirogen vs Jem'Hadar.

I must admit, the thought did occur to me as I wrote my last reply (to wit: recalling how Worf wipes the floor with *most* of the latter )

[Tsukiyumi]

Makes me wonder about Hirogen vs Jem'Hadar.

I must admit, the thought did occur to me as I wrote my last reply (to wit: recalling how Worf wipes the floor with *most* of the latter )

Exactly what I was thinking.

[SomosFuga]

Well, the JemHadar present a similar problem, they were never as impresive as the first time we saw them; not physically nor technologically.

[Mikey]

OOU, they can't be. If they were, there would be no drama in any further encounters - the Jemmies/Hirogen would utterly curbstomp our heroes if they were truly as bada** as originally shown.

[Tsukiyumi]

Jemmies weren't depicted as super bad-ass in their first appearance; Sisko clobbered one during the escape, and Quark shot him, IIRC.

[SomosFuga]

Jemmies weren't depicted as super bad-ass in their first appearance; Sisko clobbered one during the escape, and Quark shot him, IIRC.

True but they blow up the Odyssey, a GCS, the best SF had at that point, they were able to fire and transport through fed shields and they can make themselfs invisible.

[Tsukiyumi]

Jemmies weren't depicted as super bad-ass in their first appearance; Sisko clobbered one during the escape, and Quark shot him, IIRC.

True but they blow up the Odyssey, a GCS, the best SF had at that point, they were able to fire and transport through fed shields and they can make themselfs invisible.

All true. I thought we were discussing their physical capabilities, though.