Reasonable Figure for the Borg Collective? 'Unimatrix'

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Reasonable Figure for the Borg Collective? 'Unimatrix'

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''Unimatrix'', '1 out of every million borg drones affected' (by the mutation)
''Unimatrix'' Seven says ''could be tens of thousands, maybe more''
So if we choose higher tens of thousands so has potential to be more than tens of thousands, say 80,000, then figure for entire borg collective is 80 billion (80,000,000,000), which doesn't really gel with 'dark frontier' ''trillions of drones'', and also 80billion isn't so high as in the 'Yesterdays Enterprise' klingon-federation war, there were 40billion casualties.
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Maybe there were like a million in the unimatrix, then it would be like a million times a million, or quadrillion? I think thats what it is.
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I think 80k is a solid bottom estimate...a million drones in Unimatri 0 is more likely IMO, but it's probably even more than that. 1 mil would make the total 1 trillion (1,000,000,000,000) drones, still a little low. my guess would probably be around 10 mil, and I'd guess that the ratio of drones affected is less than 1 in a mil, but more than 1 in ten mil, making it easier to just round to the 1 per mil number we heard.
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I would guess it changes greatly over time. They assimialte a planet like Earth they get close to 10 billion drones. But they might not keep them all. To great of a pull on resources since they probably have no need for that many.
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I'd say the number should easily be in the trillions. The sheer amount of space they rule, the amount of races they assimilated, along with the complete inability for most races to figure out effective counter measures against the techno-zombies should lead to some high numbers.
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Rochey wrote:I'd say the number should easily be in the trillions. The sheer amount of space they rule, the amount of races they assimilated, along with the complete inability for most races to figure out effective counter measures against the techno-zombies should lead to some high numbers.
Yeah but you don't really need a lot of Drones in the heart of their Empire. No one to assimilate after all. Just maintain things.
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There would be hardly any natural attrition, though.
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But why waste a resources? If they assimilate a world why just kill potential drones. Assimilate them, set them to work building cubes, then take off and go make more drones. Just like a virus.
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Well it really calls into mind the true nature of the Borg. Conquerors or Cullers? Culling-ers?

Are they attempting to take over the Galaxy or merely farm it?
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Well, remember that they are picky about who they assimilate. They don't bother with Kazon, not worth the trouble. They assimilate what is useful and move on. If a race doesn't offer anything of technological or biological value they seem to ignore it.
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Tyyr wrote:Well, remember that they are picky about who they assimilate. They don't bother with Kazon, not worth the trouble. They assimilate what is useful and move on. If a race doesn't offer anything of technological or biological value they seem to ignore it.
Which in my opinion would support the farming theory SD net first showed me. But we've had other large threads about that idea before. If they're thousands of centuries old though they should own the Galaxy if they were in it for conquest.
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Unless their technological superiority is newly gained. We know nothing about how powerful they were prior to TNG.
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