TR-116 vs Phasers

[Mark]

NOTE: THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED TO RESURECT THE FAMED TR-116 THREAD.
IT IS TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF BOTH WEAPONS, AND TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THEM.


I was recently reviewing the DITL entry on the TR-116 and was hit with a great idea. Would it be completely unrealistic to design a TR-116 with a phaser built in? That would provide the bearer with several options during a combat operation.

Thought?

[Teaos]

As a general rule its better to make speiatlity guns rather than swiss knife guns.

[Aaron]

NOTE: THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED TO RESURECT THE FAMED TR-116 THREAD.
IT IS TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF BOTH WEAPONS, AND TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THEM.


I was recently reviewing the DITL entry on the TR-116 and was hit with a great idea. Would it be completely unrealistic to design a TR-116 with a phaser built in? That would provide the bearer with several options during a combat operation.

Thought?

Well seeing as the TR-116 was shelved in favour of phasers that worked in all enviroments, I'm not seeing much of a benefit to scrapping all the existing weapons and replacing them. Yes, you could put a phaser on it ala the C-7/M-203 combo or vice versa with a phaser but in general I'd say it would just be better to put a grenade launcher on the existing phaser rifles.

[Mikey]

Yeah, the only barrel-mounted additions I could see being useful are grenade launchers (or the 'Trek equivalent) or targetting aids. Phaser rifles and the TR-116 fill the same role, and as Kendall mentioned there appear to have been developments in phasers which overcame the reason the TR-116 was made.

For particular roles, like sniping, the TR-116 with the microtransporter mod would be useful - but in that case, there wouldn't be a need for the phaser addition.

[Captain Seafort]

The TR-116 never really made sense as a combat weapon - normal transporters are blocked by everything from thunderstorms to funny rocks, so it stands to reason that the microtransporter would be even more severely affected. Without the transporter, it would be considerably less effective, as it's got a very low velocity round. The only thing it would really be useful for is assasinations - in which case it's size is a considerable drawback.

As for attachments to phaser rifles, they're in desparate need of a bayonet.

[Tsukiyumi]

...As for attachments to phaser rifles, they're in desparate need of a bayonet.

Seconded.

[Aaron]

The TR-116 never really made sense as a combat weapon - normal transporters are blocked by everything from thunderstorms to funny rocks, so it stands to reason that the microtransporter would be even more severely affected. Without the transporter, it would be considerably less effective, as it's got a very low velocity round. The only thing it would really be useful for is assasinations - in which case it's size is a considerable drawback.

As for attachments to phaser rifles, they're in desparate need of a bayonet.

That was just something cooked up by the insane Vulcan and O'Brien anyways. I doubt that it was ever seriously considered as a modification for combat.

[Sionnach Glic]

Aye, wasn't the transporter bit an add-on? Maybe it was meant as a conventional sniper rifle.

As for shoving a phaser on it, don't bother. Give the trooper carrying it an MP-5 instead. Much bettter.

[Deepcrush]

Frak mp5, go MA DEUCE!

[Mikey]

Frak mp5, go MA DEUCE!

As the standard-issue longarm?! If each soldier was equipped with an M2, they'd be able to carry an average of eight rounds apiece.

Aye, wasn't the transporter bit an add-on? Maybe it was meant as a conventional sniper rifle.

Yes, it was added by the Vulcan sociopath in the DS9 ep. However, that add-on would make it an effective sniping tool; without it, it's just a rather unimpressive hunting rifle.

[Aaron]

As the standard-issue longarm?! If each soldier was equipped with an M2, they'd be able to carry an average of eight rounds apiece.

Not even that. It's man portable, yes but only if it's broken down into three pieces. Have fun using that barrel as a club.

[Tsukiyumi]

Yeah, just give 'em this.

[Mikey]

Assault shotgun + no real body armor to speak of = bad for the guy on the wrong end.

[Tsukiyumi]

During the part where he's auto-blasting the crap out of the water-filled buckets, just picture the Jem'hadar charge from AR-558.

[kostmayer]

You wouldn't want to be on Deck 9 when Guinan pulls that out from under the bar and starts shooting the ceiling.

I'm reminded of an episode of Stargate when O'Neill and the team are demonstrating the advantages their assault rifle has over those staff blaster thingies (I never watched the show regularly).

The staffs may have been technologically superior, but the assault rifle was much more effective.