What Did Picard Do Between Commands?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:22 pm

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Because it eventually reaches a point where I honestly ask myself:

1. Am I watching the same show the others are?

2. Am I somehow... off for liking said show?

3. What do they actually like about Trek?

Entertainment is subjective, what I get out of Trek is not necassarily what you get out of it.

Sonic Glitch · Post by **Sonic Glitch** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:55 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Because it eventually reaches a point where I honestly ask myself:

1. Am I watching the same show the others are?

2. Am I somehow... off for liking said show?

3. What do they actually like about Trek?
Entertainment is subjective, what I get out of Trek is not necassarily what you get out of it.

But sometimes I'm forced to wonder if anyone is actually getting anything out of Trek or if by now they're just watching it to find something to complain about. (Kinda like the gateworld.net Atlantis forums...really, why do some of them still watch the show?)

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:57 pm

me,myself and I wrote: But sometimes I'm forced to wonder if anyone is actually getting anything out of Trek or if by now they're just watching it to find something to complain about. (Kinda like the gateworld.net Atlantis forums...really, why do some of them still watch the show?)

As I've said before you can liek something despite it's flaws. And there's only so much awesome stuff to talk about.

Sonic Glitch · Post by **Sonic Glitch** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:03 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
me,myself and I wrote: But sometimes I'm forced to wonder if anyone is actually getting anything out of Trek or if by now they're just watching it to find something to complain about. (Kinda like the gateworld.net Atlantis forums...really, why do some of them still watch the show?)

As I've said before you can liek something despite it's flaws. And there's only so much awesome stuff to talk about.

True enough. I hope no one here as reached the point of, "oo a new star trek. lets see what they can screw up this week." as opposed to "oo, a new star trek. let's see what they're gonna do..." and then later, "well they screwed that up." You know what I mean by the difference? Going in looking for flaws as opposed to going in to be entertained, expecting a good story, and finding the flaws later. Did that make sense?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:10 pm

me,myself and I wrote: True enough. I hope no one here as reached the point of, "oo a new star trek. lets see what they can screw up this week." as opposed to "oo, a new star trek. let's see what they're gonna do..." and then later, "well they screwed that up." You know what I mean by the difference? Going in looking for flaws as opposed to going in to be entertained, expecting a good story, and finding the flaws later. Did that make sense?

It made sense. Honestly, I only watch TOS on a regular basis. By the time VOY and ENT rolled around I was pretty burned out on Trek and was tuning in (for ENT) to see how bad it could be. That's mostly because everything they did had been done before though. Personally I only consider TOS to have any particualr moral message, which is what I hear Trek is famous for. And unfortunately for Trek, the viewing numbers go along with this. I certainly am not happy about Trek biting the dust but I am thankful that it didn't get dragged any lower.

You can kinda see what I'm talking about with the Clone Wars series for SW, with each new season or program it just gets crappier and crappier.

Post by **Graham Kennedy** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:12 pm

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Because it eventually reaches a point where I honestly ask myself:

1. Am I watching the same show the others are?

2. Am I somehow... off for liking said show?

3. What do they actually like about Trek?

I do wonder with some people whether they watch the show simply because they enjoy attacking how stupid it is in their eyes. Not that there's anything wrong with that I guess, there are things I've watched just to have a good laugh at them. Mystery Science Theater 3000 made a whole franchise out of it!

But in the end, other people's negative opinion of a particular episode or aspect of the show doesn't really impinge on my enjoyment. I like Star Trek, I like the Federation, I think Starfleet is a great organisation, and I love Starships. And anybody who differs is more than welcome to do so, it don't mean I am wrong to disagree.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:14 pm

GrahamKennedy wrote:
I do wonder with some people whether they watch the show simply because they enjoy attacking how stupid it is in their eyes. Not that there's anything wrong with that I guess, there are things I've watched just to have a good laugh at them. Mystery Science Theater 3000 made a whole franchise out of it!

But in the end, other people's negative opinion of a particular episode or aspect of the show doesn't really impinge on my enjoyment. I like Star Trek, I like the Federation, I think Starfleet is a great organisation, and I love Starships. And anybody who differs is more than welcome to do so, it don't mean I am wrong to disagree.

The nice thing about entertainment is that everyone gets something different out of it and it's kind of hard for someone to say with any validity; "your a tard cause you like Trek".

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:47 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
me,myself and I wrote: But sometimes I'm forced to wonder if anyone is actually getting anything out of Trek or if by now they're just watching it to find something to complain about. (Kinda like the gateworld.net Atlantis forums...really, why do some of them still watch the show?)

As I've said before you can liek something despite it's flaws. And there's only so much awesome stuff to talk about.

And there's only so much negative stuff to harp on.

Lt. Staplic · Post by **Lt. Staplic** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:37 am

dang, he beat me to it.

well put GK.

Post by **Teaos** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:11 am

Also remember, its far more fun to complain than support.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:38 pm

Teaos wrote:Also remember, its far more fun to complain than support.

I've found it to be the opposite, myself.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:31 pm

I always liked a good bitch-fest, myself.

To be honest, I reached the "tune in just to see how bad it was" around season 2 of VOY, and have been stuck there ever since.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:15 pm

I almost reached that with the Star Wars EU, but decided it was easier/cheaper to simply not buy the books/not read them/ declare everything past the YJK non-canon to me. I'm glad I never reached that with ST.

Post by **Graham Kennedy** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:16 pm

There would come a point where I gave up, if I thought that way.

Post by **Mikey** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:47 pm

I think there is a little bit of human nature which makes us far more likely to bitch about the negatives than crow about the positives, even when the positives outweigh the negatives. Good news doesn't sell papers. I prefer to think of it as a testament to 'Trek that we can find all the flaws we discuss, yet obviously still have enough love for the franchise to keep discussing it.

Personally, as much as I discuss the flaws in 'Trek, if I really disliked it I wouldn't bother spending the time discussing it at all.

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