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Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:35 pm
by Captain Seafort
ENT? Plot? Where?

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:15 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I think you misunderstand, the plot drive gets the show away from trivialities such as plots.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:16 pm
by Captain Seafort
Ah, understood.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:24 pm
by Mikey
Rochey wrote:I think you misunderstand, the plot drive gets the show away from trivialities such as plots.
And at incredible speeds, too. :P

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:44 am
by Mark
:laughroll:

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:56 am
by Sionnach Glic
Aye, it's been estimated at speeds of Warp 10.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:01 am
by Mark
But if Starfleet were to start using Borg style Transwarp corridors (I'm thinking THAT'S the logical progression) then an entirely NEW speed scale will be needed.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:01 am
by Sionnach Glic
Nah, Plot Drive is faster than Transwarp. Infiinite speed is the only answer.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:10 am
by Mark
Warp Drive = Light Speed
Transwarp Drive = Ridiculous Speed
Plot Power Drive = Ludicrous Speed!!!

The above is a small comparison chart :mrgreen:

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:27 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Mark wrote:But if Starfleet were to start using Borg style Transwarp corridors (I'm thinking THAT'S the logical progression) then an entirely NEW speed scale will be needed.
Why couldn't TNG have just used the same scale, going to speeds of Warp 13, 14. As it is, the existing TNG scale is just a small modification of the TOS scale, anyway - so what's the point of it?

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:31 pm
by Captain Seafort
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:Why couldn't TNG have just used the same scale, going to speeds of Warp 13, 14. As it is, the existing TNG scale is just a small modification of the TOS scale, anyway - so what's the point of it?
It's a small modification up to warp 9, but after that it shoots off up to warp 10 as the ultimate speed limit. Roddenberry wanted that limit to stop the numbers getting stupid - warp 13, 14, 15 aren't so bad, but warp 30 or 40 would start to get rediculous. Of course, reeling off warp factors with a stupid number of decimal places isn't much better.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:18 pm
by Lt. Staplic
the problem is that the way warp works there is now "max speed" so no matter how you do it eventually throught natual evolution your going to hit stupid levels of decimals or rediculusly high numbers.

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:31 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Captain Seafort wrote:
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:Why couldn't TNG have just used the same scale, going to speeds of Warp 13, 14. As it is, the existing TNG scale is just a small modification of the TOS scale, anyway - so what's the point of it?
It's a small modification up to warp 9, but after that it shoots off up to warp 10 as the ultimate speed limit. Roddenberry wanted that limit to stop the numbers getting stupid - warp 13, 14, 15 aren't so bad, but warp 30 or 40 would start to get rediculous. Of course, reeling off warp factors with a stupid number of decimal places isn't much better.
Well, just using the wf^(10/3) formula, I get Warp 40 is equal to 218,876c, or roughly 25 ly/hour!!! So, there's the answer: it's crazy to be going at speeds that high (if they want to keep the galaxy as "big" as it is meant to be) to begin with, so you should never have to worry about going as fast as Warp 40. :tongue:

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:07 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Hell, I'd still prefer to hear "Warp factor 47" instead of "Warp factor 9.9975".

Re: What would the "Warp Formula" look like if...

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:32 pm
by Lt. Staplic
.9975 isn't that bad, however if we do another series after VOY it'll get pretty old:

ensign Warp 9.99999999999982138479625 on my mark.