Tuvix: Any way to have saved him, AND Tuvok and Neelix

[Graham Kennedy]

You aren't murdering anybody if you do nothing and let Tuvox live, which is what they should have done.

Tuvok and Neelix however, remain dead, despite the existence of the means to revive them.

Yes. This is not murder, though.

[Teaos]

Man slaughter at the least.

[Graham Kennedy]

Man slaughter at the least.

Not that either. Killing Tuvix was 1st degree murder; leaving people dead is no crime at all.

[kostmayer]

What if its someone who has just drowned and you decide not to resuscitate?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

What if its someone who has just drowned and you decide not to resuscitate?

How is that related to this discusion? Your example has the chance of saving one life without killing or even risking the life of someone else. Tuvok and Neelix were considered already dead.

Murdering Tuvix to bring a pair of dead guys back is more like(closest RL example I could come up with) killing someone, and taking their Kidneys to possibly save two other people

[Reliant121]

you know what? to sum it all up: Who gives a crap anyway?

[Sionnach Glic]

Who gives a crap about the amount of scre-ups Janeway's ever made? We can still discuss it.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

you know what? to sum it all up: Who gives a crap anyway

That sums up about 90% of all our discussions.

[stitch626]

I have a question...
Tuvix was a merge of Tuvok, Nelix, and that flower that they collected. When the crew separated Tuvix, what happened to the flower?

[Sionnach Glic]

Ah, well, that disapeared because of....you know, quantum.

Cookie for the reference.

[Graham Kennedy]

What if its someone who has just drowned and you decide not to resuscitate?

How is that related to this discusion? Your example has the chance of saving one life without killing or even risking the life of someone else. Tuvok and Neelix were considered already dead.

Murdering Tuvix to bring a pair of dead guys back is more like(closest RL example I could come up with) killing someone, and taking their Kidneys to possibly save two other people

Exactly so. I've used an example like this before in classes when talking about ethics. If you cut one healthy man up you could get a heart, two lungs, two kidneys, a liver... you could save six lives just with that. So if "kill one to save two" is good morality, why aren't government run transplant factories kidnapping people off the street right now?

What Janeway did was criminal, and the crew were criminals to go along with it. Only the EMH showed any backbone at all.

[Captain Seafort]

Ah, well, that disapeared because of....you know, quantum.

Cookie for the reference.

OVEG of course.

[Sionnach Glic]

Yup.

[Teaos]

So Neelix and Tuvok have a little bit of flower in them.

[Mikey]

See, and I always figured that Neelix had a little fruit in him.